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04-14-2010 , 12:16 PM

#1826

Run Ricky Run

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Quote:

Originally Posted by A S U

It's a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year. I don't see how anyone can say those players spanning 2 years would impact the field as much as Marshall.

Especially since they drafted Pat White with one of their seconds last year!!!

04-14-2010 , 12:17 PM

#1827

Etats360

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This trade seems very out of character for Parcells.

04-14-2010 , 12:18 PM

#1828

SHOT

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Im a huge Phins fan and I am not sure how I should feel after this trade. Ive never known whats its like to have a true elite receiver my entire life. Its unfamiliar territory. I think at the very least it makes next year exciting. Ginn might actually be decent threat alongside Marshall.

The bonus is atleast we wont make a huge **** up and take Bryant now. Williams/Thomas (no JPP) please!

04-14-2010 , 12:21 PM

#1829

Anacardo

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Bill's always had a soft spot for the h00gest d00ds at any given position.

04-14-2010 , 12:23 PM

#1830

jsnipes28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Run Ricky Run

What can you do. Parcells needs superstar receivers to make Henne look good so he can justify picking him.

I know you are just supposed to ignore the trolls, but every post you've made is either dogging henne/parcells or defending slowplaying. I don't get it.

As to the contract, it's a little more than I expected tho I assumed he would get at least 10mm/yr. I like the fact that it's a 4 year deal and I think that should help to keep him on his toes a little. Hopefully he plays well for 3 years and they renegotiate.

Also, if the Fins can manage to trade back they could recoup a 2nd rounder which would be great. Plz trade back to 21, draft Kindle/Graham and then get a good DT/S in the 2nd.

04-14-2010 , 12:28 PM

#1831

SMIGLET

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jsnipes28

I know you are just supposed to ignore the trolls, but every post you've made is either dogging henne/parcells or defending slowplaying. I don't get it.

hes just a hater, doesnt make any other kind of posts

04-14-2010 , 12:30 PM

#1832

Anacardo

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SMIG WOULD YOU ****ING PICK ALREADY

04-14-2010 , 12:30 PM

#1833

Anacardo

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sorry reflex

04-14-2010 , 12:51 PM

#1834

USC Cheats

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I still don't get why teams value draft picks so much. If you're planning on picking a WR in the first round, the absolute best case scenario is someone as good as Brandon Marshall, and in all likelihood the pick will be much, much worse. And you have to pay them a bunch of money, just like Marshall. Of course he's slightly older, but that can't matter that much. A first rounder for Marshall seems like a turbo fistpump snapcall.

04-14-2010 , 12:54 PM

#1835

Needle77

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Financial commitment + age.

04-14-2010 , 01:07 PM

#1836

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by USC Cheats

Marshall went in the 4th round. That's the best case, because then you're paying him a pittance for what you got.

04-14-2010 , 01:10 PM

#1837

erick_marroquin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Run Ricky Run

And Marshall is younger and didn't benefit from playing opposite larry fitzgerald.

lol you realize Boldin caught 100 passes in his rookie year with a scrub QB at the helm right? oh and fitz was in college. gtfo clown.

04-14-2010 , 01:10 PM

#1838

nath

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Casual fans don't realize how valuable draft picks are because they're so fixated on superstars.

04-14-2010 , 01:13 PM

#1839

EPiPeN11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nath

Casual fans don't realize how overrated draft picks are because they don't realize that the vast majority of them turn out to be busts/decent players especially players picked as 2nd rounders and beyond. even the ones who turn out to be good/great will usually take their time to get there and once they do will get paid a ton anyway by either u or someone else

fyp

04-14-2010 , 01:15 PM

#1840

Needle77

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And your team will continue to age and my team will always be getting younger. Its the NFL, its a young mans game.

04-14-2010 , 01:17 PM

#1841

EPiPeN11

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brandon marshall is 26 and which is in the early prime years, he should still be just as good if not maybe even slightly better in the next few years and shouldn't start to significantly decline before 30 barring injuries which happens to everyone. the nfl is a win now league not a young mans league and marshall gives me by far a better chance of winning now than 2 2nd rounders will who will very likely be busts/decent players.

04-14-2010 , 01:17 PM

#1842

A S U

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Last year the #12 pick was signed for 5/23, 13gtd. So it's about double what they would pay a rookie that could possibly bust, OR come out blazing and put together 2 awesome years and then sit out until they renegotiate their contract.

04-14-2010 , 01:18 PM

#1843

Needle77

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I mean, you are a fan of a team that more often than not gets rid of a player for draft picks. Yeah they've acquired a guy or two by giving up some picks but the Pats accumulate a lot of picks.

But I look at other successful teams in the Steelers and Colts and its picks not players. I look at a team on the rise like the Cardinals and its the same for them. I thought the Dolphins were one of those teams but I was wrong.

04-14-2010 , 01:19 PM

#1844

nath

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Epi,

you're just wrong, and any look at how teams fill out their starting lineups with players picked beyond the 1st round will show that.

04-14-2010 , 01:21 PM

#1845

Needle77

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And have we not learned that its not necessary to find WRs early? *sigh* I don't have the energy to argue this further. Good teams hold onto and acquire picks. Bad teams give up picks all the time. I'll take the Steelers going to playoffs for years than go for a team that puts all their eggs in one basket for "win now."

All the good GMs and owners know its not "win now" but stay young and keep the window open for as long as possible. Get hot in December and go on a run in the playoffs. That is, the good ones. I guess we can discuss the bad ones.

04-14-2010 , 01:23 PM

#1846

AC-Cobra

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They are, one move to fill a need they've struggled with for years isn't negating all that. As long as this doesn't become a trend, and it won't under parcells, then it's a fine example of seizing an opportunity to fill a need.

04-14-2010 , 01:24 PM

#1847

EPiPeN11

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disagree, what bad teams constantly trade away their picks for current stars? I can't think of any. I can however think of getting wes welker and randy moss for highway robbery in the form of giving up 2nd and 4th round picks.

04-14-2010 , 01:25 PM

#1848

NameOnTheCake

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B Marshall is >> Bolden in a football sense. Boldin trade still probably better

04-14-2010 , 01:25 PM

#1849

SHOT

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You were wrong based on ONE deal in which the Phins got a top5 WR in the league?

If anything Parcells is amazing at getting value, not necessarily picks or players, but value. He obv sees positive value in this trade.