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04-05-2010 , 07:42 PM
Wha..?
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The Seattle Seahawks have traded guard Rob Sims to the Detroit Lions for defensive end Robert Henderson. The teams also swapped draft picks with Seattle getting Detroit's fifth-round pick in this month's draft, and the Lions getting the first of Seattle's two seventh-round picks.
Who the hell is Robert Henderson? I've seen every Lions game, never heard of him.
04-05-2010 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
bull****. mean this as kindly as possible. only good players are worthy of respect, or in this case common courtesy? gmafb. it's a dick move, possibly a bitch move
I guess. But I mean do you call some random linebacker to inform him you have traded for a better one? I think it's a bitch move not to call players to inform you have traded or cut them (ldo) but letting them know you acquired somebody else in a move meh.
04-05-2010 , 07:49 PM
you're asking if an employer should notify an employee that he has been replaced?
04-05-2010 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
you're asking if an employer should notify an employee that he has been replaced?
He hasn't been replaced, though. He's still on the roster and his job duty is expected to be the same (be prepared to start).

This isn't Milton from Office Space being let go and not being told.

That said, it's a pretty shltty move. But what can Cambell do about it beyond crying about it? These guys make a lot of money but they're under contract, which puts them in a different spot than many of us at-will employees. These guys are slabs of meat - end of story. But they get to retire young and should be comfortable. I'll shed no tears. lol.
04-05-2010 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by prohornblower
He hasn't been replaced, though. He's still on the roster and his job duty is expected to be the same (be prepared to start).

This isn't Milton from Office Space being let go and not being told.

That said, it's a pretty shltty move. But what can Cambell do about it beyond crying about it? These guys make a lot of money but they're under contract, which puts them in a different spot than many of us at-will employees. These guys are slabs of meat - end of story. But they get to retire young and should be comfortable. I'll shed no tears. lol.
the bolded was my only point; however, come on-- the redskins have essentially replaced him. even if it's only a "demotion," i would imagine you, or most anyone, would be (rightfully) pissed if they were unknowingly demoted. the fact that jason campbell may not be that good, or that he is a millionaire, or anything else regarding his lot in life is not particularly relevant. it's disrespectful
04-05-2010 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
you're asking if an employer should notify an employee that he has been replaced?
They should inform him that they plan on trading him or something like that, not that he will have a new role on the team next year. Do you call your starting left tackle before you make a draft selection to tell him your first round pick will be starting?
04-05-2010 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
They should inform him that they plan on trading him or something like that, not that he will have a new role on the team next year.
i never said they should say this, or anything specifically. i said he absolutely deserves to be informed in response to you saying he "hadn't earned the right to be informed of ****". there are various ways they could break the news to him, but the point is that he deserves to have someone from the organization tell him.


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Do you call your starting left tackle before you make a draft selection to tell him your first round pick will be starting?[/B]
you do if you want to be respectful to your players imo. if a player believes he is the starter and you (coach, gm, team president or whoever communicates these decisions to players) know that the player is no longer the starter then yes i believe you should tell the player. or are you going to wait until he sees the depth chart?


edit: i'm not talking about some feel good bull**** like "we think you're a great qb, but we're going in a different direction" either, though trying to break him would also be weak. bring him in and tell him; hell call him and tell him. just at least have someone who makes decisions tell him. i guess i could see going this route if he was a locker room cancer or a thorn in the organization but by many accounts the guy is a consummate professional

Last edited by tarheeljks; 04-05-2010 at 09:26 PM.
04-05-2010 , 09:30 PM
i mean this is dan snyder were talking about here
04-05-2010 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
the bolded was my only point; however, come on-- the redskins have essentially replaced him. even if it's only a "demotion," i would imagine you, or most anyone, would be (rightfully) pissed if they were unknowingly demoted. the fact that jason campbell may not be that good, or that he is a millionaire, or anything else regarding his lot in life is not particularly relevant. it's disrespectful
This actually happened to me once in a Men's baseball league - and yeah I was pissed. Got on a new team and enjoyed getting hits against my former fat **** manager's team. But still he's under contract. Like I said they can treat him like a slab of meat. That's basically what he is. Of course it's bad business policy as you don't want your employees disgruntled and underperforming.
04-05-2010 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
you do if you want to be respectful to your players imo. if a player believes he is the starter and you (coach, gm, team president or whoever communicates these decisions to players) know that the player is no longer the starter then yes i believe you should tell the player. or are you going to wait until he sees the depth chart?
Ok, I just don't think I'd be offended if nobody informed me in this situation. Now if they traded or cut me without saying anything I'd be pissed but so long as I'm a member of the team it doesn't seem that important.
04-05-2010 , 09:43 PM
And to clarify they should obv have called him by now and told him what they plan on doing with him...
04-05-2010 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
Wha..?

Who the hell is Robert Henderson? I've seen every Lions game, never heard of him.
He's never played an NFL snap. Seahawks probably looking at him as a special teamer.
04-06-2010 , 11:42 AM
Neil Rackers signs with the Texans for 2 yrs/4.1M, i guess this means they will cut Kris Brown?

rumors-

the bears will go after Flozell Adams, lets hope they see him as a RT or interior line and keep Chris Williams at LT, in which case i would like the move a lot. he doesnt have the quickness anymore to consistently deal with blindside rushers but hes still a force in the run game

TO to the skins now? Brandon Marshall seems very unlikely now after losing their 2nd round pick, and apparently there is no longer any bad blood between TO and Mcnabb

Alex Brown visiting the Saints today, imo hes exactly what they need and they should do their best to sign him. they sorely lack a solid run stopper on the DL
04-06-2010 , 12:24 PM
Very little guaranteed for Rackers. He'll have to beat out Brown in order to cash in.
04-06-2010 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Rams cut Bluger.
Took longer than I imagined.

Steelers are sniffing about. Back up for Big Ben
04-06-2010 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SMIGLET
TO to the skins now? Brandon Marshall seems very unlikely now after losing their 2nd round pick, and apparently there is no longer any bad blood between TO and Mcnabb
Even if there is no bad blood, I still have a hard time seeing them playing together again. With that said, I think Washington really needs a reciever. TO would be an upgrade for them, I think it would be interesting for sure. I just can't wrap my mind around it happening.
04-06-2010 , 12:40 PM
The Texans going after a solid veteran K is no surprise. They lost 2 games on last second Kris Brown misses and would have made the playoffs with one more win.

Rackers wasn't great last year and his kickoff distance has been in decline for a few years, it remains to be seen if he can bounce back from his groin injury and get back to his 2005 form.
04-06-2010 , 12:46 PM
It seems that teams over-value draft picks, given how often they bust and how expensive they are. Donovan McNabb is a legit elite NFL quarterback, and you let him go for a 2nd round pick that isnt even at the beginning of the 2nd round? I just don't get it.
04-06-2010 , 12:51 PM
1) the pick is in the early part of round 2
2) Most draft picks aren't expensive. Its only the top half of the first round that has to worry about that.
04-06-2010 , 01:37 PM
Ok so Brett Farve is now a grandfather. If he comes back next year, what is a fair line of how many times this is mentioned on Sunday's? It's gotta be at least 3...

Plus we would get to hear about him talk about how he is doing it for all the grandfathers is postseason inteviews. yay!
04-06-2010 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNoodleMan
The Texans going after a solid veteran K is no surprise. They lost 2 games on last second Kris Brown misses and would have made the playoffs with one more win.

Rackers wasn't great last year and his kickoff distance has been in decline for a few years, it remains to be seen if he can bounce back from his groin injury and get back to his 2005 form.
Rackers is awful in the clutch. Lol @ that signing.
04-06-2010 , 04:29 PM
This is why I hate ESPN. At 3pm they run a 30 min show called "Sportscenter Draft Special" in which they discuss the following topics in order:
1. McNabb Trade
2. How trade affects Wash/Phi draft
3. Segway into Bradford being affected and updates on him
4. Kiper/McShay debate Bradford and Clausen
5. Tebow's best fit
6. Favre is a grandfather

Immediately following this they run NFL Live for 30 minutes, in which they discuss the following topics in order:
1. McNabb trade
2. How trade affects Wash/Phi draft
3. Updates on Sam Bradford
4. Kiper/McShay debate Clausen
5. Favre is a grandfather

I know there isn't a lot of news during the day, but for this to be on the main ESPN, not ESPN ocho or something, is insane to me. Isn't there some sporting event or anything else they could televise rather than just repeat the same show back to back? So pathetic.
04-06-2010 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ggbman
Ok so Brett Farve is now a grandfather. If he comes back next year, what is a fair line of how many times this is mentioned on Sunday's? It's gotta be at least 3...

Plus we would get to hear about him talk about how he is doing it for all the grandfathers is postseason inteviews. yay!
lol Brittany favre def got knocked up. there is no way that had to be planned.
04-06-2010 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by z32fanatic
This is why I hate ESPN. At 3pm they run a 30 min show called "Sportscenter Draft Special" in which they discuss the following topics in order:
1. McNabb Trade
2. How trade affects Wash/Phi draft
3. Segway into Bradford being affected and updates on him
4. Kiper/McShay debate Bradford and Clausen
5. Tebow's best fit
6. Favre is a grandfather

Immediately following this they run NFL Live for 30 minutes, in which they discuss the following topics in order:
1. McNabb trade
2. How trade affects Wash/Phi draft
3. Updates on Sam Bradford
4. Kiper/McShay debate Clausen
5. Favre is a grandfather

I know there isn't a lot of news during the day, but for this to be on the main ESPN, not ESPN ocho or something, is insane to me. Isn't there some sporting event or anything else they could televise rather than just repeat the same show back to back? So pathetic.
If you think that is bad, they have a diving non-catch/bad call as a top 10 play from yesterday.
04-06-2010 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by z32fanatic
This is why I hate ESPN. At 3pm they run a 30 min show called "Sportscenter Draft Special" in which they discuss the following topics in order:
1. McNabb Trade
2. How trade affects Wash/Phi draft
3. Segway into Bradford being affected and updates on him

      
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