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01-21-2013 , 12:13 AM
tbf phildo, the crabtree fumble resulted in the falcons backed up on the 1, going 3 and out, and the 49ers getting the ball back on their 35 or something like that.

i don't think you can just tack on a theoretical extra 7 there, but I get your point.
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01-21-2013 , 12:41 AM
I want it on the record that I did not slink.
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01-21-2013 , 12:46 AM
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So I just got home, any highlights from this thread worth reading?
Anger Push saying that the Falcons losing a game in which they were up 17-0 was not a collapse.
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01-21-2013 , 09:46 AM
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Anger Push saying that the Falcons losing a game in which they were up 17-0 was not a collapse.
I don't know, that doesn't seem like that lol of a statement. It's not like they were up 17-0 in the 4th quarter.
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01-21-2013 , 11:10 AM
Falcons choked, collapsed, embarrassed themselves, etc

Only saving grace from total humiliation was Brady doing it even worse
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01-21-2013 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
If I'm playing Lebron 1-1 and he spots me 40 in a game to 41 and I lose, is that a collapse?

Would be curious to know what the ingame ML was when Falcons scored to go up 17-0. It couldn't have been that awful.
9ers were +7 (I think) and +250ml (I'm certain) in the commercial before that td (up 10 & in fg range). I had to run out right after that so not sure how much it went up right after the score.

Sorry, literally no idea what the Falcons side was at the time
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01-21-2013 , 12:44 PM
subjectively, especially after watching the seattle game, sure, it's not that surprising, and sf is a great team, so i guess you could argue it's not a collapse

in reality: any team that's up 3 scores at home and loses collapsed
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01-21-2013 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
If I'm playing Lebron 1-1 and he spots me 40 in a game to 41 and I lose, is that a collapse?

Would be curious to know what the ingame ML was when Falcons scored to go up 17-0. It couldn't have been that awful.
Spoiler:
try harder to explain why the fail wasn't a fail
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01-21-2013 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
Would be curious to know what the ingame ML was when Falcons scored to go up 17-0. It couldn't have been that awful.
I was betting this the whole game. The worst it got was 9ers have a 30% chance to win. After they scored their first touchdown it was a coinflip and shortly thereafter the 9ers were favorites, usually big favorites, the rest of the game.

Pretty amazing (and accurate!) considering they didn't have their first lead until midway through the 4th quarter. The market was not only aware of the possibility of, but expecting, the meltdown.
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01-21-2013 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
If I'm playing Lebron 1-1 and he spots me 40 in a game to 41 and I lose, is that a collapse?

Would be curious to know what the ingame ML was when Falcons scored to go up 17-0. It couldn't have been that awful.
This analogy would make sense if the Falcons were a D3 football team.


(they aren't)
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01-21-2013 , 05:36 PM
SF:Lebron as Atl:angerpush comparison seems pretty accurate actually
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01-21-2013 , 05:47 PM
I'm a Falcons fan, and it felt like a collapse to me.

Not like an up 5-0 in the top of the 9th with Kimbrel on the hill and 7-8-9 due up, but more like an up 5-0 in the top of the 5th with Tim Hudson working on a 2-hit shutout and a rested bullpen kind of collapse.
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01-21-2013 , 05:50 PM
No sensible person would argue it wasn't a collapse.
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01-21-2013 , 05:53 PM
falcons jumped to a 17-0 home lead where they were just moving the ball at will then got outscored 28-7 the rest of the way where the only td was a result of a last minute drive and lol_prevent. there really is nothing else to call it
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01-21-2013 , 06:07 PM
So what would you call what the 49ers did in letting the other team jump out to a 17 point lead?

Prelapse?
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01-21-2013 , 06:08 PM
Definitely a collapse, but for the Falcons to not score in the 2nd half was incredibly flukey.

I mean they continued to move the ball pretty much at will. Fluke fumble by Ryan and Roddy falling down on a timing route led to an INT. Only one punt in 2nd half and it was when they started at their one yard line. I agree the 49ers could not be stopped, but let's not pretend they suddenly shut down ATL on defense with great adjustments. 49ers definitely ran good to only give up 24 points in that game. Clearly that last drive leads to 3 points if that's all it took to win/tie (and they would have done it with no time left).

We could give Crabtree the TD on the goal line and Akers the chip shot and you could give the Falcons at least a FG on the Ryan fumble on 2nd and 9 on the 49ers 28 and a TD on the pass to Douglas assuming he doesn't trip over Lennay Kekua. Ryan fumbles a snap from shotgun <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< than Akers missing a chip shot in theory.

Both teams had very tough breaks. The difference in the game to me was the Ryan fumble. That was huge as points on that drive after the Akers miss would have obviously been huge.
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01-21-2013 , 06:17 PM
Not to mention the no-call on the defensive hold on the 4th and 4. I understand the no-call, but at the same time at some point you just have to throw the flag in a spot like that. I read a lot about the OPI no-calls on Julio, and I think some were close, but as we all know the burden of proof for an OPI >>>>>>>> than the burden for a call on a defensive back (holding, illegal contact, or DPI). That's just the nature of the game these days. I'd never care about a non OPI-call unless it was obviously blatant (arms extended into DB and he falls down, is pushed back several yards from play).

You just shouldn't be allowed to get away with a hold in a spot that ends a season (if it's blatant and that was to me). I believe that is the only reason Ryan threw to that progression, he thought it was an obvious defensive penalty and they'd get an auto first down.
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01-21-2013 , 06:18 PM
Falcons fans shouldn't feel too bad, though. I heard today that Ryan was likely out for the Super Bowl with that left shoulder injury he suffered on the final drive. Doubt we are shipping rangz with Luke McCown.
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01-21-2013 , 06:21 PM
luke mccown vs joey flacks for all the tostitos

that woulda been something
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01-21-2013 , 06:25 PM
It's within 5 yards, you can't call it there especially when the refs called 5 penalties all game long and let the teams play. With that being said, you guys got a really favorable 50/50 call on the "catch" that drive. I still don't believe it was right. I know that the non call ended the play, but it's not like you were 100% to score a TD with Ryan's apparent injury. 9ers would have needed only a FG to tie it as well assuming Smith doesn't go for 2.
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01-21-2013 , 06:26 PM
Anyone bitching about the calls is pretty bad. Refs let them play all day. The calls were totally consistent.
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01-21-2013 , 06:28 PM
Worst call was the personal foul where the 49er flopped
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01-21-2013 , 06:30 PM
The thought hadn't even crossed my mind. You would think Matt would try to give it a go but no way he could deal with any kind of contact on his lead shoulder for an entire game. Would have been the ultimate freeroll I can see it now. Dominique Davis someone comes into the game, saves the day, Falcons ship SB, full blown QB controversy with a fan base that is predominately African American.

Oh well, maybe next year.
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01-21-2013 , 06:34 PM
9ers got 2 calls that game, but both were pretty big.

2 15 yard misconducts--one was the late throw of a player which gave us 15 free yards--this really didn't change that much although allowed us to score quicker. the other one was the face touch of CK which was a weak call but right--this one was huge and extended a drive.

considering how physical the game was, the only calls were ticky tack which i still find amazing but that's how the game was called.
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01-21-2013 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tdomeski
Not to mention the no-call on the defensive hold on the 4th and 4. I understand the no-call, but at the same time at some point you just have to throw the flag in a spot like that. I read a lot about the OPI no-calls on Julio, and I think some were close, but as we all know the burden of proof for an OPI >>>>>>>> than the burden for a call on a defensive back (holding, illegal contact, or DPI). That's just the nature of the game these days. I'd never care about a non OPI-call unless it was obviously blatant (arms extended into DB and he falls down, is pushed back several yards from play).

You just shouldn't be allowed to get away with a hold in a spot that ends a season (if it's blatant and that was to me). I believe that is the only reason Ryan threw to that progression, he thought it was an obvious defensive penalty and they'd get an auto first down.
You can hit people within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. Rewatch the play. There isn't as much 'holding' as you are suggesting.
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