I am now one Miss#2 loss away from claiming the 2/3 season national title.

The complete version will involve ND losing 1 more on penalties while FSU rattles off three more 4th qtr comebacks to win the playoff.

Wow, FSU is in the midst of such a sick grind of medium teams right now.

Sure it started off with cupcake ND, but then you have a ranked team on the road on a THURSDAY. Top 5 Miami on the road. Boston College, who played FSU tougher last year than any other team that didn't know what offensive plays FSU was running. And Florida, who held Missouri to 119 yards. 119! That's impressive.

To top it all off there's still the ACC Title Game where FSU is at a huge disadvantage b/c the entire Coastal division will probably be tied at that point and their opponent unknown until just before kickoff.

Hmm...knowing a lot of Mississippi State fans, I myself have many, many good reasons not to root for them, such as knowing the kind of people their success would make happy. If you don't already know them, however...

*They did have a pretty lousy OOC, but then...that probably represents an ambition to make a bowl game more so than trying to sneak into the "playoff". Because usually they suck and people laugh at them, you see.

*They have a bad defense. Idk, some people like defense.

*They have a great quarterback. Eh, probably the same people wouldn't like that.

*You may find you rapidly become "over" the sound of cowbell, as do 99% of people. It never stops. Somehow they got some sort of exemption allowing the cowbells because, well, what else do these pathetic people have, really.

*They're racist. Technically that's just an educated guess. "They're still racist"--now that also includes some personal experience. Relatively speaking, it's Mississippi.

*Do you hate the blues? This is sort of like their home.

*Remember Cam Newton and the Mississippi State disclosure that he'd left a phone message for a recruiter there on which he clearly stated that Auburn was giving him too much money to turn them down? And then it turned out 'the recruiter' was Mullen's wife but the tape was real. And then the tape was verified to exist because numerous people including coaches, MSU staff, and reporters had heard it, in order to verify its existence and indeed it was there and definitive. And then the tape was turned over to the NCAA, Auburn and Cam got nothing, and Cowbells got penalties for paying players? Over and over again, the tape was going to be released soon, within a couple of days to show their side of the story. Did you ever...*hear* that tape? I did not. I'd still like to. This is a pretty good example of typical Mississippi State people interactions. Just expect a whole lotta stuff that doesn't really make any sense, and a whole lot of wondering why and how far are they willing to go, and "good god, what is going on here?"


So those are some reasons I can think of. Let this be a lesson to you to specify "good" reasons in the future.

Oh, and they can be slightly uncivilized:

yeah, because ASU catching a hail mary against USC makes them so much better than the team that missed the chip shot FG and failed in the red zone so often

If they are truly going best teams as they say, the teams below 7th should be eliminated. If it's not 4 of MsSt, Ole Miss, Bama, Auburn, Georgia, FSU, and Oregon, then it's not the best teams. All those other guys can piss off with their nonsense debating over positioning.

None of those reasons make me not like them except maybe the cow bells

Replace fsu with tcu and you have something

this is a good post

Perhaps because auburn and the SEC West champ are far better than tOSU and Nebraska?

Here's Mullen not making his player take accountability for stomping on other players, saying it was an accident when Dillon Day stomped on the LSU players.

http://www.clarionledger.com/videos/...9/23/16124947/

He's just a POS. I don't want to rehash the Cam stuff that Holliday pointed out, but Mullen is college buddies with Pete Thamel, a reporter for the NY Times who had all the inside scoop and scathing articles about Auburn. He fed Thamel a lot of info and inside sources to disparage Cam and bring him down. It was obvious at the time where they were coming from. Mullen and Urban Meyer were incredibly bitter about the success Cam was having at Auburn and the timing and sources of the information Thamel was printing, along with his prior relationship with those two coaches (they are all old friends apparently), made it obvious that they were all working together on it.

When I hear Mullen or Meyer brag about being part of Cam's support system from the past it makes me sick.

Well that's all easy enough to say until you find yourself cleaning urine stains off your stuff.

Well of course they are, but I don't think splitting a home and neutral game is good enough to pass MSU in this case. I'm operating under the assumption UGA only gets in at 12-1.

The more I think about it the more I am kind of coming around to getting things from domer's point of view. ND gets chastised by us + the media for eschewing "tougher" games in favor of a baby-bottom-soft (for the most part) slate of ACC matchups, loses to the one decent team they face and gets crushed for it. Meanwhile FSU plays that slate year in and year out. I mean obv ND did themselves no favors by not beating FSU but the disparity in ranking between the two just seems off to me.

And do any of you odds wizards see FSU as anything other than a dog on a neutral field to anyone else in the current top 6?

no. fsu is not a top 5 team but its just a fact that an undefeated defending champion is absolutely never being left out of a 4 team playoff

arguing "fsu isnt elite either" does nothing but prove notre dame should be ranked even lower though

Yeah I mean I can't argue with the fact that FSU hasn't lost so of course they're gonna be there at the end if status quo is maintained, it just seems like the gap between the two is wider than it should be. Maybe only slightly but still

the gap between fsu and everyone is wider than it should be because they are highly overranked when looking at team quality but they have a reserved spot in the top four while undefeated

If FSU lost last night then ND and FSU would have very similar resumes and be ranked near each other.

We can't just say they should be closer to each other now without looking at the teams in between and saying which of those should be behind ND or ahead of FSU.

Of the 7 teams in between the two, I can only really think of MSU that shouldn't be.

As already stated, FSU is getting inflated b/c they are undefeated defending champs and haven't lost with Winston, so comparisons to them are silly.

If you take away last season, and thus the perception would be that FSU has been mediocre since the early 2000s, then they'd be sitting in a much different playoff position, probably on the outside looking in.

FSU at least tried to remedy the soft ACC by scheduling Oklahoma St, Notre Dame, and Florida, which is pretty damn impressive. Unfortunately, not only is the ACC weaker than its normal weakness, but UF has turned into complete AIDS too.

We all agree FSU and ND should be ranked much closer to each other

Unfortunately for Domers, that just means that FSU should be much lower, not that ND should be higher

But we can't lower FSU until they lose, unfortunately


So while Miss lost and went from 2 to 4, FSU losing should drop them from from 2 to 14

Well fortunately for FSU Florida is AIDS

If they weren't, FSU wouldn't beat them

As is, there is a decent chance FL wins that game...of course, Miami should beat FSU even before that

FSU did not schedule ND.

A decent chance Florida beats FSU?!? WHAT

Florida is a turd.

Sag. Predictor only sets the line at FSU -9 at home vs. UF. There aren't many gimmies for this FSU team.

Exhibit A: NC State
Exhibit B: Clemson (I know, no Winston, but entire team looked bad)

It doesn't count as an ACC game, so they still get credit for "scheduling" the game, in the same way that USC and ND or Clemson and USCe get credit for playing each other every year.

Florida uses the FSU game as their excuse for never scheduling a top-100 out of conference game in the history of ever, so FSU should get credit as well.

There are very few teams that would have a conference slate plus mandated games against Florida and ND on the docket, and then voluntarily choose to schedule Oklahoma State as well