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01-07-2014 , 02:44 PM
How is L'ville a better gig than Arizona? Being SEC adjacent and not in the SEC sounds a lot worse than being in the Pac12.
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01-07-2014 , 02:48 PM
Well, for starters I assume RichRod has connections there as memory indicates whichever state Louisville is in (Ohio?) is pretty close to West Virginia. It's also possible he's found the desert doesn't agree with him?
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01-07-2014 , 02:49 PM
Franklins not in a hurry to leave vu guys!! He's just interviewed at 10 other college jobs in the past two weeks.
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01-07-2014 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by samsonh
Franklins not in a hurry to leave vu guys!! He's just interviewed at 10 other college jobs in the past two weeks.

He's turned down multiple interviews (and a couple actual offers) over the last two years. If he was "in a hurry to leave VU", he'd have taken the first offer that came along. He is obviously not "in a hurry". That's not the same as "he will never ever leave".


As I've stated before, he would leave for the NFL or someplace he could win Nattys. But not for anywhere else.
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01-07-2014 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
How is L'ville a better gig than Arizona? Being SEC adjacent and not in the SEC sounds a lot worse than being in the Pac12.
Louisville has a chance to be a Top Tier ACC school which beats being a bottom feeder Pac-12 school.
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01-07-2014 , 03:22 PM
lol, totally forgot abut the ACC move. Dunno that I'd call AZ a bottom feeder, they probably won't be with RichRod, but it does make it more reasonable.
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01-07-2014 , 03:38 PM
Will Louisville really be a top tier ACC school in football?

FSU, Miami, Clemson seem to be the top tier. Louisville w/o Strong would seem to belong in the 2nd tier with Ga Tech et al (and I'd put AZ in the same tier of the Pac).
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01-07-2014 , 03:43 PM
Duke gonna be the pride of the ACC in a decade or so. Gonna win 10 games next year against just about the most favorable schedule ever made:

* Non-conference games: Elon, Kansas, @Troy, Tulane
* ACC home games: North Carolina, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest
* ACC road games: Georgia Tech, Miami, Syracuse, Pittsburgh

Will likely lose to GT. Could lose to Miami or Va Tech. Don't really see another loss in there. Gonna be 10 wins again boys.
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01-07-2014 , 03:47 PM
VT is going to be awful next year. Could Duke lose that game? Sure, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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01-07-2014 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mmbt0ne
VT is going to be awful next year. Could Duke lose that game? Sure, but I wouldn't bet on it.
good to know. had no knowledge of their recruiting class and they're a threat to have a lot of talent. We won't be outcoached in the ACC except by Paul Johnson and his gimmick.
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01-07-2014 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPoppa
He's turned down multiple interviews (and a couple actual offers) over the last two years. If he was "in a hurry to leave VU", he'd have taken the first offer that came along. He is obviously not "in a hurry". That's not the same as "he will never ever leave".


As I've stated before, he would leave for the NFL or someplace he could win Nattys. But not for anywhere else.
I mean it looks like he's about to leave for Penn State where he has almost 0 chance of winning nattys as he has a dwindling recruiting base (PA recruiting is getting worse by the year), sanctions, and is the middle of bum**** nowhere. Soo... not sure about that
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01-07-2014 , 04:38 PM
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* Non-conference games: Elon, Kansas, @Troy, Tulane
This is ****ing shameful.
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01-07-2014 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SteelersDMW
I mean it looks like he's about to leave for Penn State where he has almost 0 chance of winning nattys as he has a dwindling recruiting base (PA recruiting is getting worse by the year), sanctions, and is the middle of bum**** nowhere. Soo... not sure about that
Pen State coming off sanctions is very well positioned to win Nattys. Huge fanbase with lots of enthusiasm and money. Their recruiting base (Pennsylvania + the mid Atlantic states) is quite large with little competition. Most of the BigTwhatever is aids so they only need to fade a couple good opponents per year; but the conference champ is usually going to get one of the playoff bids as a matter of course.

Compare that to the SEC, where most states have multiple teams competing over a smaller player pool and you have to beat multiple good teams each year to be in the conversation.

I can only think of a handful of teams better positioned (Ohio St, Texas, USC all come to mind).
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01-07-2014 , 04:53 PM
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This is ****ing shameful.
to be fair we were probably dogs to at least 2 of those if not 3 when we scheduled them.
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01-07-2014 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPoppa
Will Louisville really be a top tier ACC school in football?

FSU, Miami, Clemson seem to be the top tier. Louisville w/o Strong would seem to belong in the 2nd tier with Ga Tech et al (and I'd put AZ in the same tier of the Pac).
It's all new, so it's tough to see where they will shake out. Miami has been down a while, don't expect it to change too much. Clemson and Louisville seem on par for the near term potential.

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Originally Posted by Dids
lol, totally forgot abut the ACC move. Dunno that I'd call AZ a bottom feeder, they probably won't be with RichRod, but it does make it more reasonable.
UofA's finishes in conference by year (most recent first)
4th div (4-5)
4th div (4-5)
5th div (2-7)
5th (4-5)
2nd (6-3)
5th (5-4)
6th (4-5)
5th (4-5)
8th (2-6)
8th (2-6)
10th (1-7)
9th (1-7)
8th (2-6)
5th (3-5)

So probably next to-bottom tier more accurate than bottom feeder. The ceiling is very low there. The ceiling at Louisville is much higher. RichRod will be considered a success at UofA if he can finish in the top 2 of the division every so often.
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01-07-2014 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPoppa
Pen State coming off sanctions is very well positioned to win Nattys. Huge fanbase with lots of enthusiasm and money. Their recruiting base (Pennsylvania + the mid Atlantic states) is quite large with little competition. Most of the BigTwhatever is aids so they only need to fade a couple good opponents per year; but the conference champ is usually going to get one of the playoff bids as a matter of course.

Compare that to the SEC, where most states have multiple teams competing over a smaller player pool and you have to beat multiple good teams each year to be in the conversation.

I can only think of a handful of teams better positioned (Ohio St, Texas, USC all come to mind).
This. The BigTen is weak, and PSU has probably the largest natural recruiting footprint of any BigTen school. You play 2 real games a year, win both of those and you're in the BCS playoff.
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01-07-2014 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPoppa
Pen State coming off sanctions is very well positioned to win Nattys. Huge fanbase with lots of enthusiasm and money. Their recruiting base (Pennsylvania + the mid Atlantic states) is quite large with little competition. Most of the BigTwhatever is aids so they only need to fade a couple good opponents per year; but the conference champ is usually going to get one of the playoff bids as a matter of course.

Compare that to the SEC, where most states have multiple teams competing over a smaller player pool and you have to beat multiple good teams each year to be in the conversation.

I can only think of a handful of teams better positioned (Ohio St, Texas, USC all come to mind).
Uhhh no you win nattys by getting players from Florida, Texas, and California. Penn St never has and never will get players from Florida Texas and California. That's why Penn St is not in a good position to win nattys. Just look at the recruiting rankings of Pennsylvania this year:

There is PLENTY of talent in FL, LA, GA, AL, etc to sustain all the southern schools. There is a reason that B1G schools get blown out by schools from the south and it's because of speed. GL winning a natty without South/Texas/CA speed on your roster and Penn State has basically shown an inability to recruit that kind of speed in a very long time.

Yeah I guess I forgot about the playoff and how trash Penn State's schedule is going to be. Even still, it's really hard to build an elite football team without elite speed. Urban Meyer can recruit it because of his past combined with tOSU's pull.
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01-07-2014 , 05:37 PM
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Uhhh no you win nattys by getting players from Florida, Texas, and California. Penn St never has and never will get players from Florida Texas and California. That's why Penn St is not in a good position to win nattys. Just look at the recruiting rankings of Pennsylvania this year:

There is PLENTY of talent in FL, LA, GA, AL, etc to sustain all the southern schools. There is a reason that B1G schools get blown out by schools from the south and it's because of speed. GL winning a natty without South/Texas/CA speed on your roster and Penn State has basically shown an inability to recruit that kind of speed in a very long time.

Yeah I guess I forgot about the playoff and how trash Penn State's schedule is going to be. Even still, it's really hard to build an elite football team without elite speed. Urban Meyer can recruit it because of his past combined with tOSU's pull.
Another Pitt fan with his jimmies rustled.
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01-07-2014 , 05:38 PM
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Another Pitt fan with his jimmies rustled.
Haha i'm a steelers fan but actually went to USC and am from California
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01-07-2014 , 05:39 PM
Red McCombs Bashes Texas Hire


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"I think the whole thing is a bit sideways," McCombs said of the selection process during an interview with ESPN 1250 San Antonio. "I don't have any doubt that Charlie is a fine coach. I think he would make a great position coach, maybe a coordinator.
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"I think it is a kick in the face," McCombs said. "Beyond the fact of what actually happened. We have boosters that have a lot of knowledge about the game. When we decided to go get Mack -- from the time we decided to go get Mack to about 30 hours later to have a press conference here and it was done -- we had a lot of input before we went after him.
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Texas named its McCombs School of Business after the benefactor, and he has a statue inside Darrell K Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium. McCombs has donated more than $100 million to UT and is a close friend to Brown.
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01-07-2014 , 05:59 PM
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Twitter is all over Franklin to PSU. I guess, but I still maintain that unless that's his final destination he's better off waiting for another gig, but I think it's a great fit for PSU.
Pennsylvania born and raised and played QB for a local Division II program. Some of his assistants are pennsylvania born and raised as well. Seems like a good fit to me.

Sorry Dids, you lost a bit of credibility with me on this topic when you said (ON THE DAY AFTER OB LEFT FOR AN NFL HC GIG) THAT the PSU job wasn't a job for someone who had higher career aspirations
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01-07-2014 , 06:02 PM
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Another Pitt fan with his jimmies rustled.
Same guy who also swore USC was going to win the national championship last year AND was willing to bet the farm that Silas Redd was going to be a backup in his first year at USC.
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01-07-2014 , 06:10 PM
Whoever goes to PSU is going to have to deal with the next two years, where they're going to feel the scholarship losses hard. Even with the penalties rolled back, you won't be able to make up that much depth with those freshman. If Franklin is looking to move forward, he's basically got to fade 2 years, and then what, another 2 to get his rep back up to the point where the NFL/some destination program is going to want him. If his goal is upward mobility, he can 100% find a better gig.
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01-07-2014 , 06:16 PM
Penn St on kiddie rape sanctions in the BigTen is in a better spot to compete for a conference title than Vandy at full strength in the SEC. The sanctions will go away, but Vandy will always be Vandy.
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01-07-2014 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Holliday
Well, for starters I assume RichRod has connections there as memory indicates whichever state Louisville is in (Ohio?) is pretty close to West Virginia. It's also possible he's found the desert doesn't agree with him?
Yes, he has connections, but he's already supposedly off the list.

Whichever state Louisville is in? Ohio? You were kidding, right?

Apparently Jurich (Louisville AD) is interviewing Petrino today.
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