Chip 26-21, 1 playoff appearance, 1 loss, just short of three seasons, at best 7-9 this year in a terrible division, had final say over entire team
Harbaugh 44-19-1, Super Bowl appearance, made playoffs 3/4 seasons, 5-3 in playoffs, 8-8 in last season in a very good division, lol jed york


lol indeed

College is difficult to compare because they inherited very different situations and both left relatively quickly.

I meant the performance relative to the pro situations they inherited, and being kicked out for being insufferable

But thanks for posting the records and the playoff flip results, I didn't know about them or where to find them

They don't need "exact same records" (nice strawman tho) for your "chip substantially more proven" claim to be obviously lol.

CHIP: 0 rangz
GUS: 1* rangz

6-10 year before Harbaugh
4-12 year before Chip Kelly

These aren't grossly different like their actual achievements in the NFL were. You're just wrong dude. Kelly never had anything close to the success Harbaugh did.

Is the asterisk because he wasn't the head coach or because of Cam

Never know with you, lol

Once again, I want to thank you for informing me of the W-L. That's a great job of explaining the situation.

Hey man, you're the one who said something so ****ing stupid you needed it explained to you. Now you're just being a dick because you can't back your position up.

Chip won ten more games over the same four year sample size. What is hard about to understand about this? That is a 2.5 game/year differential.

In terms of winning percentage, Chip > Gus by 17.6% (Chip has a .868 win % compared to Gus's .692).

Chip never needed overtime to beat an FCS opponent.

So yes, "substantially more proven" is appropriate here.

Today's semifinals:

Bigdaddy vs Pvn
Ikes vs Chad

Winners to meet tomorrow in finals

lol

wow my RANGZ post was incredibly accurate, sort by X, become coaching evaluation expert

apples to apples comparisons are too funny.

lol indeed.

Dan Hawkins went 45-7 over a 4-year stretch at BSU, the conclusion should be obvious

Apples to apples only works when the competition level is comparable. Hawkins' BSU success was outside of a Power 5 conference and therefore not germane to this discussion that you're clearly losing badly.

OHHHHH so you can't just sort by wins????

You're also forgetting that Auburn was a complete ****ing dumpster fire when Gus came to town. Chip inherited a program that was basically at it's peak.

I'm going to hate myself for this.....but being 3 years removed from a National Championship pretty much disqualifies a program from complete ****ing dumpster fire characterization imo.

dude, they went 3-9 with zero conference wins

everyone forgets that the CAM season was a total ****ing black swan event. Nothing that happened before or after has any connection to that year.

Harbaugh should get more credit because Stanford was basically the west coast Eastern Michigan when he took over

Nobody forgets this.

newsavman apparently did

Oh ok. I don't really know who that guy is but everyone I know chalks up that 2010 auburn season as an aberration.

Perhaps you'll disagree, but recruiting is probably the best metric to gauge the health and/or potential of a program. Florida is great 2 x example of this, with Meyer winning a Nattie almost immediately with Ron Zook's excellent recruits (Zook terrible in all other aspects of coaching though). More recently Jim McElwain took over a team stocked with talent by another excellent recruiter/terrible HC in Will Muschamp. For comparison, here's the Rivals recruiting rankings of Oregon and Auburn over the last ten years (forgive the spacing):

Year Oregon Auburn
2006 49 10
2007 11 7
2008 19 20
2009 32 19
2010 13 4
2011 9 7
2012 16 10
2013 22 8
2014 26 9
2015 17 7
AVERAGE 21.4 10.1

Let's focus in on the 4 years before Chip and Gus took their respective jobs. Oregon's average recruiting ranking from 2006 to 2009 was 27.75 or almost 28th. Auburn's recruiting rankings from 2010-2013 was 7.25 or effectively 7th. Coming off of a 2010 National Championship, this isn't surprising. But the upshot is that Gus walked into a substantially better talent situation at Auburn than Kelly did at Oregon--this also explains why Gus's debut-year title game appearance didn't exactly come out of nowhere. Yeah, Gene AIDS'd it up on the field the two years after his Nattie but the bones--recruiting--of the program was strong. A dumpster fire it was not.

A further point about Gus: He has continued to bring in elite talent yet his teams have regressed the past two seasons. A top coach (like Chip Kelly) could come in and win almost immediately. If he continues to regress, he won't even be the Auburn coach this time next year.

Meh I'm willing to concede that Harbaugh might not have had a better college career. The pro **** is probably PC just being stupid on purpose.