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10-08-2023 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Yup, I just hope we take advantage. Finally adding Tez is a big boost too.

And yeah, I wouldn’t feel good with 1 loss, especially if it’s to UVA, GT or State.

Clemson sucking this year doesn’t help. That had potential to be a big resume boosting win.
McCollum seems to be just as big of a transfer get. That kid is a baller. Although looking forward to more athletic plays like this out of Tez as he gets more game comfortable.

https://x.com/dadgumboxscores/status...631281187?s=20
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10-08-2023 , 03:36 PM
No hyperbole at all, how can you keep your job after the Miami fiasco? If that isn't an offense that gets you fired, then winning games doesn't matter.
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10-08-2023 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NotReddBoiler
No hyperbole at all, how can you keep your job after the Miami fiasco? If that isn't an offense that gets you fired, then winning games doesn't matter.
What he did IS a fireable offense. If we were technologically capable of the following search I doubt we could find an intelligent life form in the universe that would disagree with that. That said, there's a difference between a fireable offense and actually firing the guy. I wouldn't fire him. Admittedly I don't follow Miami at all but the guy's in his 2nd year and he appears to be making progress and he's known as an elite recruiter. Gotta keep rolling with that and see where it goes. The fact that he's also an alum doesn't hurt either.

It's kinda like finding out your wife cheated on you. Ok yeah that's a "fireable offense" but if she still loves you and she's great in bed and makes an amazing lasagna she's still a keeper.
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10-08-2023 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
What he did IS a fireable offense. If we were technologically capable of the following search I doubt we could find an intelligent life form in the universe that would disagree with that. That said, there's a difference between a fireable offense and actually firing the guy. I wouldn't fire him. Admittedly I don't follow Miami at all but the guy's in his 2nd year and he appears to be making progress and he's known as an elite recruiter. Gotta keep rolling with that and see where it goes. The fact that he's also an alum doesn't hurt either.

It's kinda like finding out your wife cheated on you. Ok yeah that's a "fireable offense" but if she still loves you and she's great in bed and makes an amazing lasagna she's still a keeper.
Ummmmm……nooooooooooo

I don’t disagree with the rest though about Cristobal.
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10-08-2023 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NotReddBoiler
No hyperbole at all, how can you keep your job after the Miami fiasco? If that isn't an offense that gets you fired, then winning games doesn't matter.

A single game is nothing, no matter how infuriatingly stupid it was.

Last edited by Booker Wolfbox; 10-08-2023 at 04:23 PM. Reason: And by infuriatingly stupid I mean ****ing hilarious
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10-08-2023 , 04:36 PM
Which 6-0 team should be ranked higher?

Team A:
#3
#45
#46
#65
#91
#113
Average mov: 31.2 points

Team B:
#57
#63
#64
#87
#105
#121
Average mov: 31.0 points

I am picking on team B, but there are a couple others I could pick on too

Last edited by GoldenBears; 10-08-2023 at 04:42 PM.
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10-08-2023 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
those slappies arguing LSU shouldn't be ranked bc of their porous D have to step up and also demand that USC not be ranked

obv not saying GB is one of those slappies. using his post to illustrate USC's putrid D
not sure if my views on USC have filtered into this thread as much as they have in my cfb text thread, but USC has been getting insane benefit of the doubt this season for (what seems to me) absolutely no reason

I can't really fault the pollsters because Vegas too has had them rated super highly, all the lookahead lines had them as slightly better than Washington and Oregon (I fired against USC in both)

Washington and to a lesser extent Oregon have basically shown no cracks. USC's defense seems to play just okay about half the time, and then gets absolutely gashed the other half of the time.

They have talent on paper now that they didn't last year, but until they actually show it in a meaningful game, I'd have them as a clear third at best in the pac-12 pecking order
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10-08-2023 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gmcarroll33
Ummmmm……nooooooooooo
Threw the lasagna part in there to make my argument airtight. Restaurant lasagna sux bro. Gotta give her a long leash.
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10-08-2023 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears
not sure if my views on USC have filtered into this thread as much as they have in my cfb text thread, but USC has been getting insane benefit of the doubt this season for (what seems to me) absolutely no reason

I can't really fault the pollsters because Vegas too has had them rated super highly, all the lookahead lines had them as slightly better than Washington and Oregon (I fired against USC in both)

Washington and to a lesser extent Oregon have basically shown no cracks. USC's defense seems to play just okay about half the time, and then gets absolutely gashed the other half of the time.

They have talent on paper now that they didn't last year, but until they actually show it in a meaningful game, I'd have them as a clear third at best in the pac-12 pecking order
If their defense can get shoved around by Arizona like they did last night then they still look like the same team as last year to me.

Lincoln Riley reminds me a lot of Mark Richt. All the offensive skill players in the world, mixed in with a linebacker and DB or 2, but front 7 can never hold their own vs the elite.
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10-08-2023 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
Threw the lasagna part in there to make my argument airtight. Restaurant lasagna sux bro. Gotta give her a long leash.
If quality lasagna erases from your mind the 10 inch anaconda that she potentially took on the side, then you do you. Cheating is insta divorce.
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10-08-2023 , 05:40 PM
humans are literally wired to cheat tho
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10-08-2023 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
What he did IS a fireable offense. If we were technologically capable of the following search I doubt we could find an intelligent life form in the universe that would disagree with that. That said, there's a difference between a fireable offense and actually firing the guy. I wouldn't fire him. Admittedly I don't follow Miami at all but the guy's in his 2nd year and he appears to be making progress and he's known as an elite recruiter. Gotta keep rolling with that and see where it goes. The fact that he's also an alum doesn't hurt either.

It's kinda like finding out your wife cheated on you. Ok yeah that's a "fireable offense" but if she still loves you and she's great in bed and makes an amazing lasagna she's still a keeper.
Lol literally advocating for Miami fans to be cucks?
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10-08-2023 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
I was thinking about this last night: This is a really interesting year where the top 12-15 feels more even than its been in a while, but it feels like there's a steep drop off after that in most of the power conferences.

I wonder if this is just a weird one off where some programs that are usually competitive in that 20-40 overall range are having down years.

I do think the transfer portal makes this somewhat systemic though. You have the top 10-20 programs that can shell out NIL money and are destinations to compete. Then everyone else is at risk of getting their players poached. So the top teams are using the portal to plug holes, taking the best players from middle class programs. And the guys that transfer out of the top programs are guys who were getting lost on the depth chart.
I forgot who posted it here at the beginning of the season. But, since NIL and unlimited transfers, the list of newly good teams = formerly inept programs with lots of money: SC, Texas, Michigan, Penn St!?, FSU, Miami.

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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
A single game is nothing, no matter how infuriatingly stupid it was.
How far do want to take the squandered win equity? Miami did not lose 100% because I am sure Baylor once lost a game in victory formation.

Brain Kelly had almost that vs Northwestern 2014. A game where he had already went for a 2pc when up 11.

ND 40
NW 37

1st & 10 at NU 33
(1:36 - 4th) Tarean Folston run for 2 yds to the Nwest 31
(1:36 - 4th) Timeout NORTHWESTERN, clock 01:36 [final TO]

2nd & 8 at NU 31
(1:28 - 4th) Cam McDaniel run for 3 yds to the Nwest 28 Cam McDaniel fumbled, forced by Ibraheim Campbell, recovered by Nwest Jimmy Hall


NW drives and wins in OT.

Kneeling gives ND a 4th down with maybe 20 seconds left in NW territory and plenty of good options. Did running in that spot risk 95, 98, 99% of a win?
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10-08-2023 , 06:34 PM
**** me. Thought I had an impregnable argument but you found the aperture to my Death Star.

Wait....there's gotta be a way to move the goalpost and save this....ok how bout this: the very fact that she's willing to get in the kitchen and make lasagna makes her special. I mean how many people actually cook anymore. That type of woman should be forgiven if she cheats once in awhile.
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10-08-2023 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking

Brain Kelly had almost that vs Northwestern 2014. A game where he had already went for a 2pc when up 11.

ND 40
NW 37

1st & 10 at NU 33
(1:36 - 4th) Tarean Folston run for 2 yds to the Nwest 31
(1:36 - 4th) Timeout NORTHWESTERN, clock 01:36 [final TO]

2nd & 8 at NU 31
(1:28 - 4th) Cam McDaniel run for 3 yds to the Nwest 28 Cam McDaniel fumbled, forced by Ibraheim Campbell, recovered by Nwest Jimmy Hall


NW drives and wins in OT.

Kneeling gives ND a 4th down with maybe 20 seconds left in NW territory and plenty of good options. Did running in that spot risk 95, 98, 99% of a win?
I remember that game. Loved it. So sick. Conservatively assuming kneeling each time takes 2 seconds and quick pooch punting takes 6 seconds. Best case scenario for NW is to have the ball at the 20 with 6 seconds left. Kelly blew probably closer to 99% equity, especially when you account for the fact that you can do that delay kneeling ****.

Last edited by ILOVEPOKER929; 10-08-2023 at 07:03 PM.
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10-08-2023 , 06:54 PM
I think the ones (i.e. the one that happened when he was at Oregon) are a false equivalence. If you still have to punt at the end of it, then running is fine. Don't have the exact #s but ****ing up a punt seems more likely than losing a fumble when you're told that holding on to the ball is paramount.

The Jalen Milroe one is also not as bad. Players will **** up in the heat of battle, especially when certain reads have been drilled in to them tens of thousands of times. Coaches are the ones paid millions of dollars to make the right decision in that spot.
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10-08-2023 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NotReddBoiler
Lol literally advocating for Miami fans to be cucks?
Life is a complicated. Sometimes being a cuck is your best option. Seriously tho, being cheated on once is probably a more apt analogy. What Cristobal did was so egregiously bad I honestly don't think it's repeatable. Like I just don't see him ****ing up this bad ever again.

Now I get that he basically did the same thing with Oregon vs Stanford in 2018 but still. With the national attention this is getting I'd be willing to bet he gets this spot right going forward. So as bad as his mistake was there's a very good chance it's not repeatable which kinda renders it irrelevant in the bigger picture.

Of course one could argue that this screw up is so atrocious even if non-repeatable it still correlates with other future dumbshit he'll invariably do. I actually agree but that argument is watered down enough that it doesn't really have much of a punch to it cuz coaches do regular dumbshit so often.

Bottom line. He's 1.5 years in and appears to be making progress. The in game dumbshit he does in the future will probably be more in line with the average. Stick with the elite recruiter until he actually fails.
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10-08-2023 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
Life is a complicated. Sometimes being a cuck is your best option. Seriously tho, being cheated on once is probably a more apt analogy. What Cristobal did was so egregiously bad I honestly don't think it's repeatable. Like I just don't see him ****ing up this bad ever again.

Now I get that he basically did the same thing with Oregon vs Stanford in 2018 but still. With the national attention this is getting I'd be willing to bet he gets this spot right going forward. So as bad as his mistake was there's a very good chance it's not repeatable which kinda renders it irrelevant in the bigger picture.

Of course one could argue that this screw up is so atrocious even if non-repeatable it still correlates with other future dumbshit he'll invariably do. I actually agree but that argument is watered down enough that it doesn't really have much of a punch to it cuz coaches do regular dumbshit so often.

Bottom line. He's 1.5 years in and appears to be making progress. The in game dumbshit he does in the future will probably be more in line with the average. Stick with the elite recruiter until he actually fails.

This is a decent enough argument. I can't say I totally am against it. But it reminds me of the Jamie Lannister quote to Walder Frey "If every time you lose a castle, we have to come running and win it back for you, what good are you to us at all?"

Same thing, if you actually make the mistake every time a massive mistake can be made that makes you learn how not to lose in that way anymore, what good are you to us anyways? We can learn that same lesson by watching you lose in idiotic ways at a different university.
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10-08-2023 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears
Which 6-0 team should be ranked higher?

Team A:
#3
#45
#46
#65
#91
#113
Average mov: 31.2 points

Team B:
#57
#63
#64
#87
#105
#121
Average mov: 31.0 points

I am picking on team B, but there are a couple others I could pick on too
Talk to me about the eye test
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10-09-2023 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears
I think the ones (i.e. the one that happened when he was at Oregon) are a false equivalence. If you still have to punt at the end of it, then running is fine. Don't have the exact #s but ****ing up a punt seems more likely than losing a fumble when you're told that holding on to the ball is paramount.
Pains me to say congrats to Bama. I suspect Rees told Saban that throwing it away is safer than a punt.
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10-09-2023 , 11:06 AM
lasagna is super overrated, italian food generally a scam
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10-09-2023 , 11:59 AM
Lasagna, like all Italian food, is great. It's just not that different from a good pasta with meat sauce.
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10-09-2023 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears
Which 6-0 team should be ranked higher?

Team A:
#3
#45
#46
#65
#91
#113
Average mov: 31.2 points

Team B:
#57
#63
#64
#87
#105
#121
Average mov: 31.0 points

I am picking on team B, but there are a couple others I could pick on too
OU being ranked not only below UM but also Oh st and FSU is mindboggling to me, Oh St's win against ND and FSU's win against LSU don't look nearly as good now as they did at the time and OU has the best win of any team in the country. if there was no such thing as preseason rankings and the first rankings came out today they would undoubtedly be in the top 3
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10-09-2023 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
OU being ranked not only below UM but also Oh st and FSU is mindboggling to me, Oh St's win against ND and FSU's win against LSU don't look nearly as good now as they did at the time and OU has the best win of any team in the country. if there was no such thing as preseason rankings and the first rankings came out today they would undoubtedly be in the top 3
First real rankings aren’t out yet and won’t be for a few weeks yet.

But they aren’t going to bump a team from #15 to #2 based upon a close neutral field win
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