Think he was asking if a non conference winning team could be in top 4. This seems to suggest no the way it’s laid out.

Also means Notre Dame can’t

But yes it’s going to be 5+7 but would be funny if legally they couldn’t get it done and either WSU/OSU gets in.

Maybe those two could play a home and home and take cumulative points like in soccer

does that mean one of Oregon St/Wash St gets an auto bid?

theres only gonna be two conferences worth a damn next year so theres gonna be a lot of trash among those 6 autobids but B1G/SEC will likely each get 4 teams in so if you cant finish top 4 in your conference your dont deserve a playoff bid anyways.

Minimum amount of teams to be considered a conference is 8 according to their rules. So no the Pac 2 cannot get an auto bid

Also, I believe I’ve read notre dame cannot get a bye under any circumstance as a result of their independence

Edit. I did some more googling and another site said top 4 highest ranked conference winners get a bye so now I’m not sure.

Wonder if Georgia would have been above FSU in as well if Texas lost

so...B1G/SEC/B12/ACC champion all get in and then two out of Mountain West/Sun Belt/AAC/C-USA get in. the gap between 11/12 seed and the rest of the field are going to be huge, there's really gonna be closer to 6 byes

FSU would be in if Lewisville had beaten SEC stalwart Kentucky

Agreed that beating Louisville is meaningless

Are there two Louisvilles though?

Seems like this isn't a true statement, bottom.

I just want to congratulate y'all on the epic content y'all created for this thread on a Sunday

http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/ncaaf_conf.html

Not sure if anyone posted this but if field was based on pure RPI it would have been

1. Mich
2. Wash
3. Alabama
4. Georgia

5. FSU
7. Texas

Doesn’t seem to line up with SEC didn’t prove itself in OOC narrative

But that was a little cherry picked and there is that Fafita Arizona excuse always trotted out. Dude was on the roster and lost to USC anyway. So whatever

Thanks

correct me if im wrong but i dont think anybody itt got the final CFP order correct. the predictions i saw were either FSU gets left out but Bama is in the 3 slot ahead of Texas or FSU and Texas in and Bama gets left out. I don't believe anybody had 1. UM 2. Washington 3. Texas 4. Bama (which was also the best possible outcome from an entertainment perspective)

Louisville doesn't exist

No, you don't understand, 4-6. All out of conference matchups are equal. There is no such thing as an objective metric. We have to go with our guts and common sense.

To transition away from sarcasm, GoldenBears, did you post your excellent probability based resume rankings? AKA the best way publicly available on the internet to objectively take a "make all the games matter" approach beyond hurr durr sort by losses?

Thread breathes a sigh of relief?

sigh

aye?

I am mad that TCU/Auburn/KSU/ISU didn't simplify the equation for everyone.

That is probably what would have happened. One consistent rule throughout the history of the playoff is that there is a slot reserved for SEC#1. And I think that if sort_by_losses_P5 leaves a slot open, it went to SEC#2 more often than undefeated G5.

Or- they were disappointed not to be playing for the national title.

In a team sport excluding a team because the QB got hurt is just ridiculous.

They wanted TX in for market reasons.

It's not that there is a written or unwritten rule that undefeated teams don't get left out, it's that the function of the actual rules tend heavily to select undefeated teams because they qualify under the actual parameters. So that when the two conflict -- when the process goes against an undefeated team -- it suddenly is revealed that all along the standard wasn't undefeated, it was body of work and current status. And then anyone seeing the whole thing as "undefeated teams are selected duh like auto" is suddenly face-to-face with their oversimplification.

The system tends heavily to select undefeated teams from power 5; it does not select them and auto-qualify them because they are undefeated.

It doesn't start with "undefeated teams are in and who else?" Nope. And shouldn't.

The parting gift from outgoing AD Savvy Jack Swarbrick left floating in the bowl.

Then MIchigan would behind Bama-Texas-UGA

Why even have FSU in the top 4 the last few weeks if they will think other teams were better in the end. Plus if Bama lost, FSU gets in before Texas so why put Alabama in over fsu.

They knew that there would be backlash over FSU not being included so they wanted to avoid it as long as possible.

If you knew this week that Bama would be going over FSU b/c of QB then you also knew last week that Oregon was better than FSU (when Oregon's power ranking was high). It also doesn't make sense that FSU would be ahead of Georgia. Georgia is 13 pts. better on a neutral field so either FSU is in if you think strength or resume and going undefeated in a power 5 conference matters, or if you value power ratings, then just have the balls to drop FSU to 9th or whatever.

Don't give me this FSU 5th BS and make it sound like "ohhh, it was sooo close, but in the end we just decided Bama was better by an eyelash".

Basically what I'm saying is that FSU is either 3rd/4th or 8th-10th. There is no other ranking that makes sense.

They were probably never taking FSU. UGA would've been in if Texas lost. OSU would've been in if an additional team lost.

The espn guys like herbstreit clearly got their orders saturday night or earlier

Even the headline "georgia mad about being shunned from cfp" was to push "see someone else got screwed!"

Some Fsu guy reddit post was pretty good on the matter

Yah it was fairly obvious if you listened closely to the commentary in the Florida game vs. Louisville game.

Florida game, you basically were getting the impression that if FSU could somehow get the Ws, then there was no way they'd be out.

Louisville game, they were planting the seed very early that FSU could be in trouble.