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02-18-2024 , 03:55 PM
Clemson has road wins at Alabama and North Carolina. Those paper over a lot of losses.
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02-18-2024 , 04:10 PM
lol at the Buckeyes students who have "PURDONT" painted on their chests

too funny
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02-18-2024 , 04:37 PM
Looks like it might be

1. UConn
Big gap
Anyone else
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02-18-2024 , 11:21 PM
my preseason magazine had South Florida finishing 9th & Charlotte finishing 11th in the AAC.

After today's results I would say both have a legit chance to win the AAC. also Memphis has kinda been garbage in conference play which is a surprise.
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02-19-2024 , 12:09 AM
There's like 7-10 legitimately decent resumes. Most everyone past the 3 seed line has a bad resume. Really weird year.
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02-19-2024 , 10:30 AM
That just means a double digit seed is going to finally win it all.
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02-19-2024 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by NotReddBoiler
There's like 7-10 legitimately decent resumes. Most everyone past the 3 seed line has a bad resume. Really weird year.
I feel like this is the problem with bloated conferences.

When the ACC was playing a home and home Round Robin, everybody gets 2 shots at UNC, Duke, and UVA. Now you probably get at most 4 chances against those teams and nobody else counts as a "good win".
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02-19-2024 , 11:59 AM
That's also where I don't like the circular nature of how the NET works. I get there is no perfect metric, but yeah, when Clemson and Wake Forest are playing each other, one has to win and one has to lose. If they're already starting from behind, it's tough for either to catch up. And then you're also at the mercy of whose floor you're playing on, without the true round robin. Those are just two random schools I picked since they're close to each other in NET.

With that said, Lunardi continues to be a hack and the ACC continues to be underrated.

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02-19-2024 , 12:06 PM
I just went and compared 2002 to 2024.

In 2002, the top 6 conferences had:

ACC - 9
B12 - 12
B10 - 11
SEC - 12
P12 - 10
BE - 14

teams for a total of 68.

In 2024 it's

B12 - 14
ACC - 15
BE - 11
B10 - 14
SEC - 14
P12 - 12

teams for a total of 80.
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02-19-2024 , 01:57 PM
I'm not sure teams own net ranking matters? Just your opponents net ranking.
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02-19-2024 , 04:03 PM
Man slick Rick has lost it. What kind of coach would say this about his team?

https://www.si.com/college/2024/02/1...edium=news_tab
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02-19-2024 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
I'm not sure teams own net ranking matters? Just your opponents net ranking.
As far as determining actual quad wins, the own team NET ranking doesn't matter.

But the committee has made it clear they weigh team NET rankings when determining seeding.
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02-19-2024 , 06:00 PM
Whered you see that?

Zags a lock!
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02-19-2024 , 06:43 PM
Plenty of statements made in the past, but the below is directly from the NCAA website.

How are the NET rankings used?

Since the NET rankings serve as the primary sorting tool for Division I men's basketball, they play an important role in establishing a team's resume. The men’s and women’s basketball NET rankings and team sheets will be provided publicly on a daily basis on NCAA.com and NCAA.org starting in December.

DEEPER DIVE: What to know about college basketball's newest tool to help select the NCAA tournament field

Using the quadrant system, which was in its fourth season in 2020-21, the quality of wins and losses will be organized based on game location and the opponent's NET ranking.

Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75

Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135

Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 135-240

Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353

The number of Quadrant 1 wins and Quadrant 3/4 losses will be incredibly important when it comes time for NCAA tournament selection and seeding.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...-explained?amp

So I guess they don’t necessarily say you’re team 5 in NET, that equates to the top 2 seed line. But a team’s NET ranking is driven by their wins and losses, based on the quads.
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02-19-2024 , 08:44 PM
Hoos getting run out of the gym in Blacksburg

go 9:43 w/out a pt

Va Tech take a 20-2 run into halftime

0.574 ppp for UVa at half

Last edited by ligastar; 02-19-2024 at 08:50 PM.
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02-19-2024 , 09:12 PM
Wow
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02-19-2024 , 09:30 PM
man does Virginia throw out some clunkers
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02-19-2024 , 09:35 PM
Virginia could end up being the worst at large team of all time
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02-19-2024 , 09:40 PM
would be pretty cool to see them come in as a #16 seed and spring an upset on a #1 seed

full circle and all that
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02-19-2024 , 10:01 PM
I was rooting for them to go under Mia’s 38 points.

They’ll certainly be motivated on Saturday.
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02-19-2024 , 10:14 PM
pretty good nightcap on paper.

unlv had TJ otzelberger for 2 years prior to him going to Iowa St. and they were pretty s**t.

guessing not getting any quality players who fit his system to come to UNLV vs. Iowa St. was a big reason. although his UNLV stint was during covid lockdown times so maybe having zero continuity in practicing & recruiting had something to do with it.
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02-19-2024 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
I feel like this is the problem with bloated conferences.

When the ACC was playing a home and home Round Robin, everybody gets 2 shots at UNC, Duke, and UVA. Now you probably get at most 4 chances against those teams and nobody else counts as a "good win".
Teams have also figured out how to game the NET and other metrics like KenPom. Instead of letting up and putting in subs when up 20 with 5 minutes to go, coaches are leaving starters in until under a minute to go to try and get as big a win as possible to improve the metrics.

So load up on cupcakes, play a meh schedule, and just be sure to blow them all out rather than teams going the Michigan State route of just playing a murderers row in non con. So teams might have a good net from dump trucking a bunch of KenPom 100-200 teams, but have very few actual quality wins, especially away from home.
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02-19-2024 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NotReddBoiler
Teams have also figured out how to game the NET and other metrics like KenPom. Instead of letting up and putting in subs when up 20 with 5 minutes to go, coaches are leaving starters in until under a minute to go to try and get as big a win as possible to improve the metrics.

So load up on cupcakes, play a meh schedule, and just be sure to blow them all out rather than teams going the Michigan State route of just playing a murderers row in non con. So teams might have a good net from dump trucking a bunch of KenPom 100-200 teams, but have very few actual quality wins, especially away from home.

Go through the Big12 and start listing each teams best non con wins. Other than Kansas, gets pretty lol.

Houston? No real quality wins.. Dayton on a neutral court?
Iowa State Zero qualitywins. Best win is Iowa at home.
BYU Beat San Diego State and nobody else
Texas? Got beat by UConn and dumptrucked by Marquette. No quality wins.
TCU's non is lol bad

All these teams had plenty of non con low and mid major blowouts though to juice the metrics.
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02-20-2024 , 12:04 AM
Both of these teams are super tough
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02-20-2024 , 12:14 AM
Houston just makes every pass and offensive play super uncomfortable.
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