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03-24-2021 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22
Really really scary 16 or so hours. If the Knicks trade for Drummond or give up (significantish) assets for Oladipo, or both, that may be the end for me.

Otoh, the Pels reportedly are willing to part with a 1st round pick if someone takes on Bledsoe's awful contract. a Lonzo+Bledsoe+1st rounder package would be pretty sweet.
His contract isn't even THAT bad when you consider:

Contract Notes:
2022 $3.9 million guraranteed, fully guaranteed on 6/29/22

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-orle...-bledsoe-6900/

Knicks REALLY need to make this trade if it's on the table as it's really the best use of their current cap space, imho. I also agree that the next 16~ hours is really really scary for KNACKS fans. Godspeed Geoff, Godspeed.
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03-24-2021 , 11:56 PM
How's the London study going? I took some time off, getting back into chess today.

I said I am done with the C's, but still following since what else am I going to do, and they are 2-6 since.

Somehow every year there is this big drama on the C's, fights in locker room, dissension between coaches and players, guys wanting to leave like Hayward, hortford, of course Kyrie. Nobody wanting to come over. I see Ras says they played well at times tonight.

My man Timelord got 20 mins. Was plus 4. Statistically 3-4 6 points 5 rebs so not much. Last loss he was positive too, got 28 mins. So, why does he go 28 and then 20. Same confusing Brad stuff. But fine. We are stuck with him.

The move everybody is talking about. Smart for A. Gordon. But see now that we are desperate, the picks and Fournier and all that extra stuff, they will want good picks. And no bs Neismith and Langford...they want Smart.

I just don't think Brad understands psychology of coaching. X's and O's ok, but developing players, getting them together so they go to battle every night...but whatever, that is just a theory.

But you see a team like the Knicks, they are fighting. Portland, they have been injured but fighting. Remember old grit and grind Memphis. We need that spirit. And this guy Brad doesn't inspire it. Maybe I'm wrong. A couple of good playoff runs, it's true.

But if Marcus Smart is the only one holding the team together and that is why he can't be traded, then the C's have bigger problems.
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03-25-2021 , 01:03 AM
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Hoop Central
@TheHoopCentral
The Denver Nuggets have reportedly emerged as the leading candidate to trade for Aaron Gordon, via
@JakeLFischer
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03-25-2021 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22
Ya he's really bad. He has good instincts but just offers 0 rim protection and has poor lateral quickness. Also sometimes he gets super lazy and guards with his hands rather than moving his feet. It's why Millsap/Nnaji are so important. Bc Jokic/MPJ as the 4/5 has no chance of stopping anybody. Surprised they weren't in on Tucker, he woulda been such a nice fit.
This inaccurate these days Geoff. First, Paul Millsap has really, really regressed defensively from the last three years. They were able to cobble together a decent enough defense, especially in the playoffs as the series progressed, with Millsap/Joker as your front court, but they haven't been good this year because Paul doesn't have the skillset to play defense with Jokic anymore. You need to be able to tag and recover quickly because Denver plays up or traps almost every PnR. This year it's been bad with those two, 117.4 DRTg over 1400 possessions, which 28th over a decent sample. They are still a positive (+3) because any lineup with Jokic scores, but it's not ideal.

MPJ/Jokic as the front-court has worked, and it's because MPJ provides a lot of what Millsap did with rim-protection and deflections but adds athleticism and size, at the expense of IQ and experience of course. MPJ/Jokic lineups have allowed 109.3 DRTg, which would be good for 6th behind Phoenix. There is some SSS there, but I doubt it's below average with those two. Tucker yuck, the future doesn't involve MPJ chasing 3's around imo.

Afa defense is concerned, sure it's worse in the regular season but he can't be schemed against like your standard drop-centers can, and I think that's one of the big reasons why he's been more successful than Joel or Rudy, or KaT in that regard. It's on both ends where his game gains value in the postseason.

It's gone a little unnoticed how successful he's been, and the team has been with him as their lone all-star.
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03-25-2021 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by anatta
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The price is lower than originally reported, but I still don't like it.. don't hate it either. If it's Gary Harris/2021 1st and Bol Bol or RJ then that's not too difficult to swallow, but I read something about it being 2 firsts+Zeke+Barton, which would make me really sad.

@Geoff, AG is the archetype that you would want to play with MPJ. Someone who can guard wings but plays more of a 4 on offense. I don't think he's that good at anything but defense, however.
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03-25-2021 , 02:17 AM
Gordon is up to 39% from 3 this year? That seems hard to believe, probably not sustainable.

Jokic/MPJ/Gordon frontcourt feels a little too big for the modern game. Gordon/MPJ should be 4's. And Jokic is obviously slow as is.
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03-25-2021 , 02:24 AM
I trust AG's 39% about as much as I trusted Kenyon Martin's 40% from the corners.

Defensively it works--AG is one of the most versatile defenders in the game and often spends time on PGs. AG's problem is that he's a 3 defensively but a 4 offensively, MPJ's problem is the opposite. The issue is I think it'd make their offense much more human and boring--back to the old 2 man game I guess.

MPJ at the 4 has been a f-ing cheat code this year (125 Orating regardless of center, +17 net), and I fear that having a non-shooting wing just mucks things up for that unit. A lot of homers think "he hasn't been coached or in the right system", but I call BS on that. His coaches have been Scott Skiles, Frank Vogel, and Steve Clifford. Not bad.

And that stupid video ugh.
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03-25-2021 , 02:51 AM
If we somehow end up with Lonzo and Gordon though, pack it up just give us the trophy.
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03-25-2021 , 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by anatta
How's the London study going? I took some time off, getting back into chess today.

I said I am done with the C's, but still following since what else am I going to do, and they are 2-6 since.

Somehow every year there is this big drama on the C's, fights in locker room, dissension between coaches and players, guys wanting to leave like Hayward, hortford, of course Kyrie. Nobody wanting to come over. I see Ras says they played well at times tonight.

My man Timelord got 20 mins. Was plus 4. Statistically 3-4 6 points 5 rebs so not much. Last loss he was positive too, got 28 mins. So, why does he go 28 and then 20. Same confusing Brad stuff. But fine. We are stuck with him.

The move everybody is talking about. Smart for A. Gordon. But see now that we are desperate, the picks and Fournier and all that extra stuff, they will want good picks. And no bs Neismith and Langford...they want Smart.

I just don't think Brad understands psychology of coaching. X's and O's ok, but developing players, getting them together so they go to battle every night...but whatever, that is just a theory.

But you see a team like the Knicks, they are fighting. Portland, they have been injured but fighting. Remember old grit and grind Memphis. We need that spirit. And this guy Brad doesn't inspire it. Maybe I'm wrong. A couple of good playoff runs, it's true.

But if Marcus Smart is the only one holding the team together and that is why he can't be traded, then the C's have bigger problems.
I've watched first 4 parts of my London System video series (it's by GM Adrien Demuth, he's the trainer of the French national team and it has 13 parts) and I've started to play it a little in some blitz games. Thanks for asking anatta

The Knicks have really bought into Thibs Toes' methods. The tone he sets with the team, they play hard nearly every single night. Portland, they're driven by BIG GAME DAME! and Kanter has been pretty good in his role as well.
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03-25-2021 , 05:33 AM
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03-25-2021 , 05:35 AM
It's stupid to compare +/- without normalizing for possessions.

Can't compare players now and players back then because of load management.
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03-25-2021 , 06:08 AM
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They even offered him a free shirt to cover that shirt up.

You really shouldn't expect to wear a BAN DOLAN shirt in MSG and NOT get kicked out.
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03-25-2021 , 10:29 AM
its trade deadline day and we have nothing happening with less than 5 hours left? I need entertainment damnit!
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03-25-2021 , 10:32 AM
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Kanter has been pretty good in his role as well.
I liked him with c's. Cheap. Buckets and boards.
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03-25-2021 , 10:58 AM
Kings keeping Barnes they say since D. Wright means they are looking to make playoffs. Good for them. Their fans more than deserve something to cheer for.

Collins perhaps too for similar reason.
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03-25-2021 , 11:09 AM
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03-25-2021 , 11:11 AM
yeah...was going to post same tweet.


Gordon reportedly eager to be a C per Athletic
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03-25-2021 , 11:32 AM
If that is all it took, I LOVE this for Boston. Who are they sending?

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03-25-2021 , 11:40 AM
i just discovered a racket for unlimited free tshirts, who's with me?
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03-25-2021 , 11:57 AM
Javale to the Nugs. Dude has been a ring magnet lately, good sign imo
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03-25-2021 , 11:58 AM
Fournier to c's. 2 no 2's. oh ponied again. we'll see if that's all...all to get him, and no part 2...gordon.
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03-25-2021 , 12:03 PM


ok. that's that i suppose.
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03-25-2021 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GTO2.0
Javale to the Nugs. Dude has been a ring magnet lately, good sign imo
By my calcs that puts Denver as 75% favorites to title. LOL Boston spending two seconds for a share of that 25% equity.
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03-25-2021 , 12:14 PM
So yeah good deal. two seconds is a bag of balls. C's added an NBA player.

It's on these guys and Stevens. Figure it out.

Larry Bird is not walking through that door.


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03-25-2021 , 12:21 PM
nm back to 8%

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