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10-25-2018 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
How is this "LOL"

2015 they were practically gifted the title with all the injuries. No Durant for OKC, SA/LAC played rd 1 and then they got the Rockets in the conf finals, no Kyrie/Love in finals.

2016 he absolutely choked in the finals and people were making excuses for him all OKC series before he turned it around and crushed the final 3 games.

Last year he missed a ton of time, this cost GS HC and if not for more injury luck re CP maybe they don't win that either.

Any conversation with him/LeBron needs to factor in the fact 1 is fragile and the other is a cyborg.
I wasnt responding to any comparison you were making about LBJ v. Curry.

And the "choke" narrative is just as dumb when applied to Curry as it is when applied to LeBron, Harden, or any other superstar. You never make it to the superstar level if you can't handle the psychological pressure of the playoffs.
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10-25-2018 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
How is this "LOL"

2015 they were practically gifted the title with all the injuries. No Durant for OKC, SA/LAC played rd 1 and then they got the Rockets in the conf finals, no Kyrie/Love in finals.

2016 he absolutely choked in the finals and people were making excuses for him all OKC series before he turned it around and crushed the final 3 games.

Last year he missed a ton of time, this cost GS HC and if not for more injury luck re CP maybe they don't win that either.

Any conversation with him/LeBron needs to factor in the fact 1 is fragile and the other is a cyborg.
you've equated curry having struggled in the playoffs (sometimes) to saying he hasn't performed against legitimate comp. these are

rnot remotely similar statements. if this were true they'd have lost to okc. they also would have lost the first finals. curry was slowed down early on in both those series but ultimately figured it out

Edit: obv never got off in the finals to the same degree that year

Last edited by tarheeljks; 10-25-2018 at 08:11 PM.
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10-25-2018 , 08:02 PM
Wtf does Thibs care about a 2025 unprotected first? He'll be 6 years post fired and probably dead at that point.
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10-25-2018 , 08:04 PM


sad
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10-25-2018 , 08:19 PM
Grant seems like a substantial upgrade over Pat Pat in the starting lineup. RIP Pat Pat.
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10-25-2018 , 08:23 PM
Put a fricken team in Vancouver...

And that State Farm commercial with the leaking eyes is terrifying.
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10-25-2018 , 08:27 PM
Fire Stevens
clap clap clap clap clap
Fire Stevens
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10-25-2018 , 08:31 PM
lol bulls for not getting four first round picks worth.
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10-25-2018 , 08:39 PM
we should tank, our own pick and the sac pick would be a haul
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10-25-2018 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Wrane
Put a fricken team in Vancouver...

And that State Farm commercial with the leaking eyes is terrifying.


I’m really glad that I’m not the only who is terrified by that awful awful commercial.
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10-25-2018 , 08:40 PM
I guess the Celtics just suck
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10-25-2018 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by prizminferno
we should tank, our own pick and the sac pick would be a haul


MOAR ZION EQUITY is the play here.

#TankForTheLion NBA Season Thread 2018-19
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10-25-2018 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Wrane
Put a fricken team in Vancouver...
They tried so now it's probably not gonna happen again.

Put a team in Mexico City imo
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10-25-2018 , 08:45 PM
feel free to move the celtics
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10-25-2018 , 08:48 PM
Harden just wants to go to the strip club and chill. He certainly doesn't need Jimmy AND Chris Paul all up in his face trying to get him to scrimmage or some ****.
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10-25-2018 , 08:48 PM
Westbrook is literally Michelangelo of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Does anyone disagree?
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10-25-2018 , 08:54 PM
Hot take. Diallo should be the starting 2 for OKC. And Noel has looked better than Adams, though he may be dealing with a back issue.
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10-25-2018 , 08:57 PM
Curry currently on a 541 three pointers made pace for the season.

To put in perspective. That's the total of the two GOAT 3 point non-Steph seasons combined.

#lolSampleSize
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10-25-2018 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Banzai-
So in 2015 they were really lucky that everyone else got injured, but in 2016 he got injured because he's fragile and it had nothing to do with luck at all. Seems legit.

Also love how you say that both Golden State would never have won without injuries to everyone else in 2015, seeming to say that they weren't the best team, AND that they "choked" 2016, seeming to say that they were. Like, which is it?

Obv truth is that Pre-Durant GSW and Cavs were very evenly matched, and each won the year that they had luck go their way. Trying to say that one team or the other would 'clearly' win with even luck is ridiculous.

Which is it? The Warriors have run well with injury variance and the 1 title he got before the league became unfair they ran unreal good to get that chip.

Then in 2016 he had one of the worst choke jobs in the finals for a player of his caliber.

I never said 1 team or the other would "clearly" win, but if everyone is healthy in the West that year then who knows if they even make the finals.
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10-25-2018 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
you've equated curry having struggled in the playoffs (sometimes) to saying he hasn't performed against legitimate comp. these are

rnot remotely similar statements. if this were true they'd have lost to okc. they also would have lost the first finals. curry was slowed down early on in both those series but ultimately figured it out

Edit: obv never got off in the finals to the same degree that year
Yeah, he figured it out vs Iman Shumpert, JR Smith and Delavedova. That's the ring he got. So why are we saying he's better at winning rings than Bron? You realize all of this is in the context of him vs LeBron James right?

The fact LeBron even made the Cavs competitive w/ that team vs GS almost ends the argument by itself.


I said he was excellent vs OKC in the WCF last 3 games (people tend to forget this because the Klay Thompson game) but I don't see how GS winning the last 2 is some type of pro-Curry argument vs LeBron. Their team was stacked.
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10-25-2018 , 09:20 PM
Can Blake keep up this 61% 3s on 6 attempts per game?
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10-25-2018 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
I wasnt responding to any comparison you were making about LBJ v. Curry.

And the "choke" narrative is just as dumb when applied to Curry as it is when applied to LeBron, Harden, or any other superstar. You never make it to the superstar level if you can't handle the psychological pressure of the playoffs.
So playing horrible to blow a 3-1 lead in the finals isn't a blight on his legacy? It's just variance?

LeBron will be happy to hear that.



And I don't feel like getting into armchair psych when it comes to sports, but I absolutely do think playing less than your best on the biggest stage is a real thing in sports. It's just wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overused by the masses/casual fans/ESPN/sports media so people that post on this board like us tend to underrate it because we hold scorn and contempt for those folk, but obviously it is a real thing. We can't just dismiss outlier performances like LeBron's '11 finals or Curry in '16 to variance......

Or Peyton Manning's career
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10-25-2018 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by prizminferno
feel free to move the celtics


Their problem is that the NBA only uses one basketball NBA Season Thread 2018-19.

Kyrie is likely gone (Ainge won’t max him and he’ll sign with the Knicks). Hayward you don’t really need either (**** the connection he has with Brad. Ainge is a cut throat businessman).

What’s the best player you could get for Kyrie and Hayward? I guess the Celtics need a time machine and then they would have Kawhi now. NBA Season Thread 2018-19*NBA Season Thread 2018-19
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10-25-2018 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
So playing horrible to blow a 3-1 lead in the finals isn't a blight on his legacy? It's just variance?

LeBron will be happy to hear that.



And I don't feel like getting into armchair psych when it comes to sports, but I absolutely do think playing less than your best on the biggest stage is a real thing in sports (it's just wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overused by the masses/casual fans/ESPN/sports media so people that post on this board like us tend to underrate it because we hold scorn and contempt for those folk, but obviously it is a real thing. We can't just dismiss outlier performances like LeBron's '11 finals or Curry in '16 to variance)
Of course blowing a 3-1 lead is a blight, but it's not like some habitual thing with Curry (or LeBron).

Discussion of choking isn't just wayyyyyyyyyyyy overused by the masses. It's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overused by you.

We can pretend like Curry isn't effective in the playoffs, but his career TS% in the playoffs is better than LeBron, Durant, Harden, or Anthony Davis. That doesn't mean he is better than all those guys, because TS% isn't the only meaningful stat in the world, but it strongly suggests that any narrative that Curry sucks in the playoffs is just horse****.
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10-25-2018 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
It's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overused by you.

I mean, we can pretend like Curry isn't effective in the playoffs, but his career TS% in the playoffs is better than LeBron, Durant, Harden, or Anthony Davis. That doesn't mean he is better than all those guys, because TS% isn't the only meaningful stat in the world, but it strongly suggests that any narrative that Curry sucks in the playoffs is just horse****.
Who said he sucks in the playoffs? I said he sucked in the finals the one year where it was actually competitive and the other team had a legitimate chance to win.


Every other year his margin for error was pretty big given opponents.


Read the posts that are saying Curry > LBJ, people are making the case that team success is the tiebreaker because Curry can fit into elite teams and thus win rings better than LeBron.

I could maybe buy that for like a very small, specific set of teams but in general I think it's just wrong.
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