NBA Season Thread 2018-19 - Page 732 - Sporting Events and Fantasy Sports

Why would anyone waive a trade bonus? Also what are the rules on trade bonuses? Why can’t teams trade Lebron until he makes a billion dollars? (I know there are rules no idea what they are)

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06-15-2019 , 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe

wait, are you talking about when the Nyets traded for Paul Pierce and 37 year old Kevin Garnett? TZ loved that?

people had the nets up there competing with the heat for the title in their pre-seasons ranking.

I'm sure it's not the best example but my point is that whenever a team trades a huge amount of future assets for one or multiple good players, the quality of the trade for the team that traded for the good player will always be overrated.

I'd like it a lot more if Lebron was 32, we can't just pretend that his decline is not happening and won't ever happen, he already started being a liability on defense this season even after "playoff mode" was activated

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06-15-2019 , 10:22 PM

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Tbf Brook Lopez did die in like December that year. And that was D Will's big dropoff year.

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06-15-2019 , 10:25 PM

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As far as the Celts go now that the AD dream is largely over, I'd like to see them get DAR if Kyrie goes BK and BK renounces him (not really sure why BK would do this unless they're getting KD? Just pay him and deal him later)

Trade Hayward and restructure Horford after opt out to free cap space to pay DAR. Has upside and fits the Tatum/Brown/Smart timeline.

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06-15-2019 , 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by patron

This is amazing.

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06-15-2019 , 10:28 PM

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I haven't been this excited since the Lakers acquired Shaq. That team was a good bit deeper than what the Lakers have now, but they didn't have LeBron. Management also seemed a lot more competent back then. I doubt the current brain trust's ability to fill out the roster well enough to get the job done.

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06-15-2019 , 10:42 PM

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ITT we compare trading for old ass Paul Pierce and old ass KG to 26 year old Anthony Davis

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06-15-2019 , 11:02 PM

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Bontempts on twitter is saying that it is 2 1sts and 2 pick swaps besides #4

2021 top 8 protected goes to 2022 unprotected
2022 unprotected
2023 pick swap eligible
2024 unprotected
2025 pick swap eligible

WTF?

I mean we just saw what happened to KD and Klay in 72 hours and AD isn't exactly an iron man.

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06-15-2019 , 11:06 PM

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the only way this is worth it is if kawhi is coming

otherwise wtf - is this the most expensive trade in history for a single player?

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06-15-2019 , 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinarocket

History says the team that trades for the star in his prime wins the trade a lot more than they don't.

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06-15-2019 , 11:12 PM

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yeah seriously, maybe?

Lakers just sucked the last 6 years, this has Herschel Walker potential even if LeBron/AD is lethal.

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06-15-2019 , 11:25 PM

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Just came in here to say all hail TZGMs #rangz.

Also next year's odds are pretty trash everywhere, a 90 second thought experiment brought me to these numbers:

Lakers +275
Bucks +400
Raptors +500
76ers +625
Rockets +700
Warriors +1200
Celtics (w/ Kyrie) +2000
Utah (w/ Conley) +2500
Nets (w/ both Kyrie and Butler) +2500

Don't really think anyone else can win the NBA title in 2020 unless an All NBA player changes teams

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06-15-2019 , 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

yeah seriously, maybe?

Lakers just sucked the last 6 years, this has Herschel Walker potential even if LeBron/AD is lethal.

They were likely gonna suck anyways, so why not go all in when you’re renting the GOAT? the current fo hasn’t been that great at drafting and developing players. It wasn’t going to be any easier with the Lebron plan. That’s why I never understood why the team went after him and he decided to come to lal unless they tried pulling a heat like big 3 in LA.

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06-15-2019 , 11:57 PM

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This is the right take imo. The trade isn’t lolakers because we knew it would happen and they’d pay more than any team would have because they had no choice, been calling it since forever. The events that led up to this are what’s lolakers.

Also I think its pretty interesting that the consensus is that Bron is a top 5 player next year, he wasn’t this and will be 35.

He wasn't a top 5 player this year? I guess 27/8/8 isn't what it used to be.

You are drafting a team for next season, you think LBJK is on the board after the 5th pick?

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06-15-2019 , 11:58 PM

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I predict that the Lakers starting 5 is going to be: Rondo- KCP- Lebron- Kuzma-A.D. Is that good enough to win the title?

Btw, if the Warriors don't sign K.D they will have $10mill in cap space which means they can get deeper and Klay will be 100% once the playoffs arrive. I'd go as far as to say they're still the favorites to win the title in 2020 regardless of where K.D/Kawhi goes(unless they join the Lakers).

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06-15-2019 , 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

yeah seriously, maybe?

Lakers just sucked the last 6 years, this has Herschel Walker potential even if LeBron/AD is lethal.

Too bad late 1st NBA picks are like NFL 4th round picks.

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06-16-2019 , 12:21 AM

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Why was Kuzma a sticking point for LAL? he can't shoot threes which means he is worthless paired with Lebron/AD.

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06-16-2019 , 12:23 AM

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LeBron's age is irrelevant, Lakers got a young superstar for a collection of non-superstars and therefore won the trade. Pelicans best chance to be interesting is keep Lonzo, draft Bol Bol at #4 and go young.

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06-16-2019 , 12:24 AM

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I doubt he was a sticking point, probably just where they wanted to draw a line in the sand. And since he makes so little, he has value as an asset. Whereas if they kept Ingram/Lonzo then they don't have close to max room. But I do agree he isn't a great fit, I think AD at the 5, LeBron at the 4 is their go to lineup and Kuzma is more of a 4 than 3. Probably just figured he can be moved later.

And Lakers have like 33m in cap room, they're gonna round out the team with better guys than Rondo and KCP.

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06-16-2019 , 12:24 AM

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Even better question is why on earth would pels want kuzma instead of Ingram?

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06-16-2019 , 12:32 AM

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Because Ingram is a rfa this next season and hasn't nearly shown enough to warrant a max deal meaning hes a prime guy to get overpaid next year which means he basically offers 0 value on his current deal

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06-16-2019 , 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by electricladylnd

He wasn't a top 5 player this year? I guess 27/8/8 isn't what it used to be.

You are drafting a team for next season, you think LBJK is on the board after the 5th pick?

Yep, even factoring in Durant's injury. Kawhi Giannis Curry Harden Brow would be top 5 imo

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06-16-2019 , 12:52 AM

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At least Ainge is still chilling on all those assets from the nets trade.

Meanwhile, the nets will have more title equity then the celtics next season if Kyrie leaves to the nets like is rumored.

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06-16-2019 , 12:52 AM

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Anyone thinking this is a bad Lakers trade is just delusional.

Lakers gave a bunch of role players for a top 5 player in his prime. Ingram and Lonzo ain’t taking you to deep in the playoffs. Superstars like Kawhi and AD do. Picks are overrated completely when the Lakers will make deep playoff runs.

Which team that holds a top 10 player would voluntarily trade that player for what the Lakers gave? Zero.