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11-18-2016 , 03:38 PM
Hard to take any concrete conclusions from a players first 11 games on limited minutes when his scouting report is still being worked on by teams.

Can't wait one full season though, I get that.
11-18-2016 , 04:29 PM
In before embroken happens. Again.
11-18-2016 , 04:50 PM
You get 75 games guaranteed each year for the next 10 years.

Rank brow, towns, staps, embiid, assuming normal progression

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11-18-2016 , 04:55 PM
Towns, Brow, Biid, Staps
11-18-2016 , 04:57 PM
Towns, brow, staps, embiid.
11-18-2016 , 05:16 PM
Brow, Embiid, Towns, Staps

Ironically injuries make me wanna swap the first two and last two overall.
11-18-2016 , 05:33 PM
Brow, biid, Towns, Staps

Without the injury guarantee Biid slides to last.
11-18-2016 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
I'm pretty sure if we take every player, even Jordan, and put him into today's NBA they'd be somewhere between slightly above average to D league levels of ability.
This sounds like one of those dumb things people say about golfers too, then Tom Watson almost wins the British Open at the age of 61 and you look at a US Open Qualifier and there's journeyman Tom Kite shooting a 66 at the age of 84 with a catcher's mitt for a face.

Michael Jordan averaged 20 points per game at the age of 40 in 2003.
Jordan could probably put on a basketball uniform today and outperform Chandler Parsons at the age of 53.
11-18-2016 , 06:18 PM
Brow, (gap) Towns, Biid, Staps

Towns, Brow, Staps, (gap) Biid without guarantee
11-18-2016 , 06:24 PM
Seeing healthy Embiid makes me realize how bad drafting Okafor was. LDO it's problem with Nerlens and Embiid, but imagine a frontline of Embiid and Staps, that's like 14'5 of frontline!!

And Noel/Staps is pretty sexy too. Instead it's just this ridiculous log jam and everybody wants out.
11-18-2016 , 06:28 PM
I really like Embiid but yall severely underrating STAPS
11-18-2016 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mullen
I might be crazy but I think Philly could finally not be complete AIDS next year. They'll have their own pick which is almost certainly going to be top 5, and the Lakers top 3 protected pick (which is almost guaranteed to convey barring a monumental collapse). I do love LUKE and company but I expect some Lakers regression and then that'll end up being like a late lottery pick prob. Then then have approximately a billion dollars in cap space and the BIID so people might actually want to play there. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
It will turn around very quickly, it sucks atm because it just looks like the same old Sixers given they started the season bad again. They really should have 3 more wins but they just lack anyone outside of Embiid that can reliably get a shot off in the last few mins.

Hopefully when Simmons comes back, they sort of the Nerlens/Okafor situation and balance the roster out a bit and Embiid's mins can get up to 30ish they'll be a lot more consistent in their competitiveness. Guys like TJ Mcconnell wont have to play 20+mins, can move Sergio to the bench to do what he was supposed to do (play against back ups). Dario is starting to look more comfortable by the game too. That's a lot of **** to happen and it's obv the price you pay when you do draft guys who are injured and are liable to injury problems later on (well Simmons and Okafor were clean bills of health at one time) but really it's wrong imo to assume this year is like the last two because of the similar starts.
11-18-2016 , 06:31 PM
Brow, Embiid/Towns (tie), Layman, Staps
11-18-2016 , 06:35 PM
They're all super sick, it's awesome to see all these freaskishly talent big guys that have a chance to shape the league. I mean the Towns/Embiid duel was a bit of a fizzer since the Wolves stomped the Sixers but in the few possessions they did go at each other it was pretty hype and the same sense of occasion is going to come when any combination of them play each other throughout the years.
11-18-2016 , 07:04 PM
My reason for (given health) Embiid instead of STAPS/Towns is that I can see Embiid stretching the floor more than I can see STAPS/Towns becoming great defenders right now. I mean all could get there, but I haven't like what I've seen from the guys drafted last year on defense when playing the 5, and the numbers back it up. Embiid otoh has been grate on defense which imo is absolutely crucial when it comes to winning big.
11-18-2016 , 07:06 PM
If staps is supposed to be the next dirk, where is the love?

Dirk 4 Lyfe
11-18-2016 , 07:31 PM
Towns is a year and a half younger than Joel
11-18-2016 , 07:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seadood228
My reason for (given health) Embiid instead of STAPS/Towns is that I can see Embiid stretching the floor more than I can see STAPS/Towns becoming great defenders right now.
Agree
11-18-2016 , 08:47 PM
You guys are being lol. Staps 15th in RPM this year, had the same RPM as Brow last year in his rookie year, is the tallest of the group, longest, best shooting and do you guys even watch him play?

Wtf
11-18-2016 , 08:50 PM
so what's your order?
11-18-2016 , 09:08 PM
sucks it really is tough. you could make an argument for any of them as why they will be the best. I'd prob go:

Brow>Staps>Towns>Embiid

Brow first bc I think health is really the only question with him. He's been unbelievable when healthy. Staps & Towns are close to interchangeable, I think they're fairly similar Staps has two edges on Towns which make him preferable to me, 1) much quicker release which make him a more valuable floor spacer, 2) better rim protector. Towns big edge is creation from the mid/low post. Embiid can be right there, I just think he's the least proven.
11-18-2016 , 09:12 PM
For me Staps would have to become a better passer but yeah you can make arguments for all of them. I really think we need to see all of them shoot over a larger sample as well.

Good to see Jrue back out there.
11-18-2016 , 09:17 PM
Staps over Towns is just blasphemy.
11-18-2016 , 09:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by THAY3R
You guys are being lol. Staps 15th in RPM this year, had the same RPM as Brow last year in his rookie year, is the tallest of the group, longest, best shooting and do you guys even watch him play?

Wtf
How is staps a better shooter than towns?
11-18-2016 , 10:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CheckRaise
How is staps a better shooter than towns?
He might not be a better shooter- like if they stood in an empty gym and shot open 3's Towns might win- but the release most certainly makes him a more valuable 3. Elite teams with versatile defenders are gonna be able make it so Towns can basically never shoot an uncontested 3 bc his release is so slow.

Basically what I'm saying is I think Towns 3pt% will hugely fluctuate based on the quality of the team he plays, how good a true shooter he is doesn't matter bc great defensive teams won't let him get the shot off, whereas Staps will stay fairly consistent regardless. I could be wrong though.

      
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