Nobody is calling him dumb. He's obviously intelligent but these accolades don't prove or even suggest that he's a genius. It more demonstrates incredible work ethic and probably a good amount of PRIVILEGE too.

Intelligent as it relates to the Sixers' rebuild in terms of (mostly) making good moves and having a well constructed, consistent, albeit contentious plan. It was a risky plan and some aspects were botched, and maybe not prioritized enough. There were also obv some mistakes. But while there are certainly various types of intelligence, I think you would be hard-pressed to argue Hinkie was ******ed in this field, or anywhere close. If we to talk about someone who is "very smart" and also out of his depth then let's talk about Vivek.

Beyond that this post is kinda funny/meta because lay people analyzing/critiquing sports (coaching, FO, and player decision), or experts in general, usually requires people believing they are "more" intelligent and thus capable of bridging gaps related to experience and field-specific knowledge/intellect.

Having academic knowledge/experience by way of privilege or not is something I would want in my GM though. Isn't being a GM a pretty intellectual position where you have to analyze data and make complicated objective decisions? I bet Doc Rivers says things like I'm following my gut when he trades for Jeff Green. Doc Rivers could be a much smarter person than Hinkie at some things, but his entire perspective and approach is probably completely wrong.

You sound smart. I bet you went to an Ivy League school

Incredible work ethic plus privilege to succeed because of that work ethic with no obstacles is like the perfect person you'd want on your team/company/with your same interest.

PRIVILEGE is a buzzword now and deservedly so but the outcome of PRIVILEGE is access to resources and in turn success which is why people want it.

Also, no one suggested he was a genius which has more to do with innate gifts and is less transferable to business anyways

I'm smart, a genius in fact. DJ Khaled told me so

Who would you guess is smarter, Hinkie, Harris, or Vivek Ranadive?

People have definitely suggested he's a genius. People called him the cream of the intelligence crop or something.

I might want him on my team except if that team is am NBA team and he'd be the one running it.

I know he's more secretive than someone like Morey but Hinkie didn't really seem to break any ground statistically which is disappointing. What did he do other than tank and win a few small trades?

Accounting for all sorts of intelligence I would rank them Harris, Hinkie, Ranadive based on what I can glean from their resumes and what I know about them but I could easily switch Ranadive for Hinkie. I think Harris is indisputably the smartest in a combined way. I think Hinkie is more of a generally smart guy who would be good in a lot of different businesses while Ranadive is great in his space but I don't think he'd be great at consulting or PE based on how he seems to have talked about life and basketball in what I've seen of him.

Yeah but how do they compare to Brons intelligence?

It's asinine that you're sitting there comparing intelligence of people you don't know from a hole in the wall.

Yeah well I'm in business school right now so I have nothing else to do

intelligence != wisdom

also ranking intelligence is hard to somewhat meaningless w/o very specific context

I loled

What if you went full Sklansky and decided to rate their intelligence using math SAT scores as s proxy?

elite schools are already a proxy for standardized scores, which are a proxy for intelligence. by quantifiable metrics, hinkie is exceptionally smart.

It wasn't just one 25% ball that he missed, however I'll still entertain your oversimplification and state that you are still running under expectation when you miss on a 25% shot.

Then I bet they would all be tied

nh

Lol

Because I've read and listened to him many times and generally have agreed with a lot of his decisions. How do you judge intelligence?

I considered going through the last 2-300 posts of this thread, but holy **** I know it's already dominated by stuff like this. It's hard for me to not read something like this and immediately want to make a personal attack while you're spouting such utter nonsense. So, I will.

Your insanity and consistent need to have a strong opinion on something you know so little about is about as unbecoming of a character trait as you can have. Next time you find yourself really unhappy about your job, your life, personal relationships, etc. I want you to reflect on this trait for just a minute and see if you can improve upon it.

Yes I know this is the internet, I post many things flippantly that are my opinions at the time, but for someone to post such consistent drivel... I don't know, at some point you have to face reality. I've had discussions about posting on 2+2 before and I think it's true that people post VERY similarly to their real life personality.

As for Hinkie, he made a ton of mistakes. GMs make tons of mistake. He was dealt a bad hand and he made the most of it. I would argue that from a PURELY transactional POV (trades, signings, even drafting) he played near perfectly. Certainly in the top 1-5% of how anyone would have done. He ran a little bad and he made some pretty obvious mistakes (I think ZLowe has pointed out a few times in the past that just signing Jeremy Lin or Cory Joseph, even if you think they're only a future 6th man for a contending team or something, would have been a great idea to salvage looking reasonable out there. I'd also have taken Winslow over Okafor. I'd also have kept KJ McDaniels and continued to run him out there.

So, he played almost perfectly in a vacuum, and failed miserably with agents and PR.

If he brings in Elton Brand at the beginning of the season, re-signs Ish Smith at the beginning of the season, and keeps KJ (I guess maybe Canaan contributes just as many wins, but he's definitely not a PG)-- it's totally reasonable that they win twice as many games this year, Okafor doesn't get wasted and drive 120 MPH drunk and punch a guy, and he's still around.

Someone smart told me they think the most likely scenario is that he burned too many bridges to take them to the second phase of the rebuild (that he wouldn't do well in FA, for instance), and that's possible/likely, but overall I just feel sad for society that Porzingis' agent is keeping him from Philly because they're making good strategic decisions, as if they won't flip the switch at some point and become better. Too many shortsighted people out there, not that that's some incredible insight.

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Wooderson.. listen to this