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05-20-2015 , 01:45 AM
Towns for Boogie a reasonable start for a trade?
05-20-2015 , 01:56 AM
05-20-2015 , 02:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exothermic
Question: Which teams are most likely to trade & what options they have on draft night?.

Pacers seem to really want WCS, if they don't get him it's been reported they like cameron payne. With that said though, ty lawson probably available & for the #11 pick probably is enough.

Knicks #4 could get traded for kyle lowry?, raptors seem to be open to trading alot of their players. 76ers i feel should be open to trading nerlen noel if they feel embid is healthy & can live up the hype, the #4 pick & taking justice there would be a gr8 pickup for them.

What other potential trades am i missing if any?.
I wrote this in the other thread, but I really think Ty Lawson and Kenneth Faried for #4 is a possibility. It still leaves NY a chance to get a max/near-max player and field a very good five man rotation, which competes in the East and then perhaps grabs more help in 2016 when the TV contracts kick in. It makes sense for the Knax because they will surrender their pick to Denver if they really blow next year, and that's a distinct possibility if they strike out in free agency and draft at #4.

And wrt nabbing a max guy this year like say a Marc Gasol, they would probably be a much easier sell with two good vets on their roster.

For Denver it makes them younger and cheaper, with a pretty exciting future lineup of:

Mudiaye
Hezonja
Gallo
Jokic
Nurkic

because lolmurica

Last edited by Seadood228; 05-20-2015 at 02:23 AM.
05-20-2015 , 02:10 AM
Any chance Okafor drops past LAL? If so he could slip all the way to a position where my team might have to take him, and that makes me sad.
05-20-2015 , 02:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Towns for Boogie a reasonable start for a trade?
lolwat, is Wiggins coming with it?
05-20-2015 , 02:24 AM
I think Sacto snaps that trade tbh. Towns is like the perfect Karl big man while DMC is not.
05-20-2015 , 02:26 AM
Boogie wants out and his agent has asked for a trade, so Sac doesn't have a lot of leverage. An even trade of a top 3 lottery pick for him is probably fair. Minn doesn't make a lot of sense because I don't think boogie wants to sign an extension there, but #2 Laker pick for boogie makes a lot of sense IMO.
05-20-2015 , 02:43 AM
Everything I've seen on the internet the past month makes it sound like Cousins isnt going anywhere. Sounds like Karl is gonna keep him unless somebody offers him something really good. I doubt just 1 top pick is gonna do it. Also dont they have him under contract 2 more seasons?

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2015/5...or-draft-picks

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2015/5...ns-untradeable


edit- Yeah checked hes under contract 3 more seasons. No way hes getting traded for just 1 top pick. Thats a good deal with the salarys cap growing and hes also really good. Even if he demands a trade its not like he has leverage. Its gonna take a really good offer of multiple picks and players to land him.

Last edited by yellowfever; 05-20-2015 at 02:48 AM.
05-20-2015 , 02:49 AM
Karl Towns strikes me as something really good. If Karl were like 50 I don't think it'd even be a choice for him. Then again he's not the GM.

Last edited by Seadood228; 05-20-2015 at 02:54 AM.
05-20-2015 , 02:52 AM
If Boogie was a free agent after this season they would ship him for Towns maybe. 3 years of boogie on a contract thats gonna be a steal when the salary gets reworked. Its gonna take more then what Love got traded to the cavs for.
05-20-2015 , 02:53 AM
cousins has 3 more years? Didn't realize that. I agree I doubt anything is happening this year unless it is something Karl really wants
05-20-2015 , 07:49 AM
I would not trade Towns for Cousins.
05-20-2015 , 09:14 AM
me either. towns is almost lock great and cousins is still a tard 5 years in
05-20-2015 , 10:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seadood228
I wrote this in the other thread, but I really think Ty Lawson and Kenneth Faried for #4 is a possibility. It still leaves NY a chance to get a max/near-max player and field a very good five man rotation, which competes in the East and then perhaps grabs more help in 2016 when the TV contracts kick in. It makes sense for the Knax because they will surrender their pick to Denver if they really blow next year, and that's a distinct possibility if they strike out in free agency and draft at #4.

And wrt nabbing a max guy this year like say a Marc Gasol, they would probably be a much easier sell with two good vets on their roster.

For Denver it makes them younger and cheaper, with a pretty exciting future lineup of:

Mudiaye
Hezonja
Gallo
Jokic
Nurkic

because lolmurica
The problem with that sentiment though is that the knicks are going after greg monroe & prob over paying him in the process. A line up of:

1. lawson
2. hardaway
3. melo
4. fareed.
5. monroe

Doesn't strike me as a team that does damage in the east, replace marc gasol or aldridge & that's different, but umm, don't see either player going to the knicks.

I also think brandon knight is a guy knicks could possibly land in free agency, suns may not pay for him. I think free agency this summer will be very interesting cause it can go so many ways for so many teams.

p.s lol@ not trading towns for cousins, towns hasn't shown one elite skill that will carry over to the nba, not one. If he doesn't work very hard & live up to the potential of being a versatile n good all around player then he's a bust in the making. I don't think any of these guys in the draft are lock anything outside of okafor to being a lock good offensive post player, literally everyone else is a upside pick & many of them will fall short of expectations like what happens every year.

Last edited by Exothermic; 05-20-2015 at 10:50 AM.
05-20-2015 , 10:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wooders0n
I would not trade Towns for Cousins.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcb33f
me either. towns is almost lock great and cousins is still a tard 5 years in
pretty much this.
05-20-2015 , 10:47 AM
They're not going to trade for Faried if they're going to sign Monroe.

Mudiay-Hardaway-x-Melo-Monroe

Seems okay. Any lineup with Melo at 3 and Monroe at 4 with another big would be a disaster though.

I'm coming around on the idea of getting Mudiay. He won't be truly elite due to his shooting but I'm having trouble finding anyone with his size and athleticism who isn't very good.

He's of the Russ/Rose/Wall mold and I can't think of similar players who have busted.

He's a lot more explosive than someone like Tyreke and a better passer.
05-20-2015 , 10:56 AM
Cousins is a one good coach away from being a hall of famer. Guy averaged 24 and 12 can shoot free throws and pass. Hes not a great defender but hes still only 24.I remember reading the kings with Cousins on the court last season were like +1.5 points and -10 points when he was off it. He just needs a coach that can teach him not to spaz out with his body language and head. Towns is a good prospect but hes not a sure thing by any means.
05-20-2015 , 11:04 AM
Towns is basically already good at everything at the college level. He rotates well on defense, alters shots at the rim, plays pnr defense well and also has an ok post game for a young big.

He was the go to guy offensively for a highly talented kentucky team, he shoots free throws well, runs the court and allegedly has a 3 point game.

There's also no knowledge of him being a team cancer like Cousins already is. I don't think it's a lock that Towns is better than Cousins or anything, but if you look at his skillset and his size, it's really hard to poke holes in his game/find things that won't translate well to the next level, imo.
05-20-2015 , 11:08 AM
The Canz need to hire a real coach and then get BIG CUZ on down here.
05-20-2015 , 11:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Speel_Posher
Towns is basically already good at everything at the college level. He rotates well on defense, alters shots at the rim, plays pnr defense well and also has an ok post game for a young big.

He was the go to guy offensively for a highly talented kentucky team
, he shoots free throws well, runs the court and allegedly has a 3 point game.

There's also no knowledge of him being a team cancer like Cousins already is. I don't think it's a lock that Towns is better than Cousins or anything, but if you look at his skillset and his size, it's really hard to poke holes in his game/find things that won't translate well to the next level, imo.
He averages 10pts per game hahahah, do you realize who you're talking about?. The same guy that went up against kaminsky who is a lock to be random rotation guy in the nba at best & couldn't dominate him. This guy isn't gr8 offensively right now, it's not even close, he shows flashes oof being able to shoot & score in the post but neither are refined and nba ready. Only thing towns is a lock to be in the nba is a good defender, his offensive game is raw as ever. I think you're really over estimating this draft class, i wouldn't be surprised if a few of the 20 something picks become better players than the guys in the top 5, none of them are locks to be gr8 imo.
05-20-2015 , 11:12 AM
Here's the thing. When you have 19yo Wiggins you don't ever ever ever trade Towns when that could potentially be a KD/Russ level core to build around.

Lol Cousins. He's like what, 25 now? Minny wouldn't even sniff the playoffs with that trade so why even consider it.

Also, you don't ever trade 19yo Andrew Wiggins either. Lol Cavs.
05-20-2015 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
He averages 10pts per game hahahah, do you realize who you're talking about?. The same guy that went up against kaminsky who is a lock to be random rotation guy in the nba at best & couldn't dominate him. This guy isn't gr8 offensively right now, it's not even close, he shows flashes oof being able to shoot & score in the post but neither are refined and nba ready. Only thing towns is a lock to be in the nba is a good defender, his offensive game is raw as ever. I think you're really over estimating this draft class, i wouldn't be surprised if a few of the 20 something picks become better players than the guys in the top 5, none of them are locks to be gr8 imo.
do you realize that towns only played 20 mpg at kentucky?
05-20-2015 , 11:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Speel_Posher
do you realize that towns only played 20 mpg at kentucky?
http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...cousins-1.html

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...y-towns-1.html

Both played more or less same minutes in college, yes cousins took more shots but still 5pts more, better rebounder & overall bigger body with more refined offensive skill set. I do think towns will be good, but saying he's a lock to be gr8 is a big big stretch, this kid is not the next hakeem or shaq & however good he become will rely on him working his asss off cause he's not close to his potential yet. Towns & winslow are similar where that's concerned, both look like high upside guys but need alot of work to do damage in the nba, & even then we still wouldn't know exactly how high that ceiling really is.
05-20-2015 , 11:40 AM
All of Cousins added points are due to his increased Usage. Towns was the more efficient player in college as well.

I also didn't say he was a lock to be great, or even better than Cousins, but you stating that you don't know where Towns' ceiling is was exactly my point. There are no huge question marks in his game right now as a 19 year old 7 footer.
05-20-2015 , 11:44 AM
Towns won't be the scorer or rebounder that Cousins is. And that doesn't really matter much. He'll be a better defender, passer, shooter, and much better complimentary team player.

      
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