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Nurk is clearly a legit nbaer. Very little downside for dood here and plenty of upside.

The spurs are the most classic example of a team that should never ever be bet against until you've already seen it happen. You're gonna lose a lot more money/credibility/etc. trying to pick the year of the decline and being wrong time after time than sitting the first year of the decline out and then calling them done at the same time as everyone else.

It isn't in any way different, but I'd like to hear your thoughts why you think thank.

My reasoning: You bring up a draft where VC went 5th and nobody ahead of him was better, and Pierce went 10th when the only guy that should have gone ahead of him went 9th (DIRK). It's a draft full of hits and misses, just like every draft

If he becomes an average starter I will play the fool because I don't think he'll be close to average. He has legit top 10-15 player ITL equity imo, and I have no problem being LOL'd if that doesn't happen.

I've made claims that several bad players or late draft picks would be good (Taj, Nene, Fournier, Middleton, Moz) and for the most part they've all hit. Nurk is gonna smash all those guys.

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I was listening to it on a podcast somewhere, but for rookies it's tough to play hard and fast when you don't really know where you should be in the offense or on the defense. Guys that are super elite athletes don't always look like it on the court because their rotations aren't second nature.

This discussion on young players kind of reminds me of an old TZ discussion we had before Derrick Rose was MVP. Basically iirc it was about how Derrick Rose was an elite athlete but not really that good at being a point guard because he wasn't a great shooter, and although he got to the rim at will, he was terrible at finishing at the rim. The argument at the time was that Derrick Rose was essentially too stupid to learn to be a good player.

Point in bringing it up is Rose at that point in time had some legitimate arguments for not being as good as the eye test would indicate, but in the next year Rose started attacking more and even said in interviews he was working on finishing at the rim better which put him in legitimate best pg in the league discussions. Him winning MVP was lol, but he definitely made a leap in value that year.

Some athletes understand their flaws and work on them to make themselves a better player, some just dgaf and it's tough to figure out which ones are which. Rose seems like a legit moron to me so for him to "get it" for a year was something I wasn't expecting.

With all the Philly talk, what do we think of Minnesota's future?

Rubio
Wiggs/KMart2/Zach
BAZZ
Thad/PEK/Dieng

I think there's some potential with that lineup. The big rotation of PEK/Dieg seems a little weird, but from what I've seen Gorgi has been developing a set shot which could help with spacing. Defensively it appears to be fine since PEK could probably take on the bruisers while Dieng is free to roam.

They blow right now, but fully healthy I don't think they're worse than a .500 team with a lot of room to grow. Plus it looks like they are the front-runners for a top 3 pick in a presumably top-heavy draft.

Zach Lavine gets a ton of hate on Canis Hoopus, but for some reason I come away thinking he'll be decent eventually every time I see him. Maybe it's because he has the blow-by ability of an elite player.

MIN's future >> Philly's imo.

Spurs will be all right as long as Kawhi gets back soon and Parker gets healthy.

welcome to yesterday

Bad News for you then, he's already better than DJ

funny part is its the similar discussion again lol. he isn't good at PG despite being still like one of the most athletic PG in the nba

there has been good Drummond discussion. I made the point and it's being discussed. It's really not ensani hyberpole. Center is the most important position in basketball and he's a not yet 21 year old stud. It's easier to build a CHAMPION with a stud C than any other position

He is miles ahead of those 2 at the same age and better than DJ now but that's not the point. the point is NURKIK IS THE G.O.A.T.

Cavs trying to trade for Mozgov for their 1st rounder per Marc Stein we all saw it coming

Told you he'd net a first It appears I missed the "and then some".

Jared Cunningham to 76ers.

Wroten maybe to Clippers?

He isn't a John stockton type, there's different ways to play positions while still being a positive player for your team. Lol.

All the best,

Leo.

P.s. leading the team with the most wins in the league during the western conferences dominance and the recently assembled LeBron clown squad to win an mvp isn't lol. Not in the slightest.

it's honestly higher

I agree with pretty much everything you said. I also think they should make a run at LANCE. Would Bennett+Budinger do it?

it's just cash for like 300k in cap space/tax money that the clippers save by not cutting him, LAC doesn't actually have any assets that they could trade for Tony Wroten.

Lavine is an interesting discussion that we've been having in the Wolves thread. Jist of what we have been saying is that although he's probably better suited right now to play off the ball you want him to learn to play point guard because he's such an explosive athlete. It's not that he wouldn't be an athletic SG, but as a PG he could be so much more dynamic. As a Wolves fan we have not had a potentially good player and elite athlete at the wing in a really long time...the thought of having Lavine and Wiggins playing PG and SG with their athleticism and wingspan offensively and defensively is pretty drooling from an NBA perspective.

If they get a top 3 pick this year they're pretty far ahead of Philly imo. As it stands right now it's really tough to see the whole picture with 3 starters out of the lineup. The team is in shambles right now with Gorgui as their only legitimate center(they had to sign 6'6 jeff adrien to play minutes).

As far as talent goes they've all shown flashes(Lavine) or have shown big improvements(BAZZ/Wiggins) as the season has gone on.

When I look at the potential starting lineup this year(Rubio/Martin/Wiggins/Thad/Pek), i think it's pretty good wrt spacing. They were pretty competitive in their first few games when healthy. Bazz's fit will be interesting since he's pretty good in the post, but that creates a log jam with pek/gorgui who aren't good perimiter shooters right now and I don't think you want to take Pek away from the basket offensively vs most teams.

I think that the team has collected and developed a pretty nice set of assets that can potentially be flipped in the future.

Mozgov for 2 first round picks (the Memphis and OKC ones)

Lebron the GM is not as good as Lebron the player.

Connelly the new Masai