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01-05-2011 , 02:19 PM

#16601

freehat

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WTF at that dunk contest, they should just pay everyone a million bucks so all the stars would participate.

01-05-2011 , 02:26 PM

#16602

kidcolin

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Broussard on espn: you're not supposed to be messing with Tony Allen, OJ should have known that.

01-05-2011 , 02:30 PM

#16603

BobboFitos

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDean1

It tilts me so much how bad the ESPN Insider articles are- like why the eff are people supposed to pay for this crap.

I remember when Hollinger first burst onto the scene, he published an article about pure passer rating which was the worst thing I've ever seen. I forget the exact formula, but I recall the denominator being possessions used. But since this so heavily favored non-scorers, he arbitrarily regressed below usage rates to the league average. So consequently, we ended up with half of the players being analyzed with a 100% arbitrary denominator, and it still resulted with Brevin Knight + Rick Brunson as the GOAT passing PG's. It was a pretty embarrassing effort.

In all fairness, why can't Brevin Knight be considered the GOAT passer? Think about it like this:
-The man was very short
-He couldn't shoot/score
-Defensively he was a liability
-Obv rebounding wasn't his forte

so... He made it into the league. And he hung around a LONG time. Offenses tended to perform well when he was in the game. You know what? Maybe the little midget was actually a pretty good passer.

Anyway I'm not getting sucked into this type of argument, but yeah, some ESPN content is really weak. We all know this. etc.

01-05-2011 , 02:31 PM

#16604

EPiPeN11

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i thought knight was a pretty good defender? obv he didn't have height but he had a ton of quickness

01-05-2011 , 02:33 PM

#16605

BobboFitos

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Originally Posted by EPiPeN11

i thought knight was a pretty good defender?

knight is like 5'8 or 5'9 and weighs about half of what Earl Boykins weighs. He had super quick hands (always around league leaders in steals) but as been talked about at length, that doesn't mean you're a good defender. Considering during his prime/when he played lots of minutes he was always on poor defenses (the Bobcats upon their inception) I'm going to just continue thinking he wasn't a good defender.

01-05-2011 , 02:35 PM

#16606

BobboFitos

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apparently:

Quote:

According to the report, which cited unidentified sources, Mayo owed Allen money following the game and became increasingly angry toward Allen when asked to settle the debt. Several players eventually had to separate the teammates.

Awesome

01-05-2011 , 02:40 PM

#16607

TheDean1

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Originally Posted by BobboFitos

You're right- there's a fair case that he belonged there, and he would probably rank high in most formulas measuring point guard play statistically

So it was probably a bad example to demonstrate that Hollinger's stat was a complete abortion, since that could be deduced by just looking at the formula. There were a couple other PG's who never scored and weren't as good passers as Brevin in the top 5, just can't remember who they were.

01-05-2011 , 04:11 PM

#16608

Etats360

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Griffin's gonna crush that slam dunk contest

01-05-2011 , 04:16 PM

#16609

TheDean1

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Gilbert Arenas to JJ Redick: "We're the two best white shooters in the NBA."

http://deadspin.com/5724710/gilbert-...ers-in-the-nba

01-05-2011 , 04:19 PM

#16610

EPiPeN11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BobboFitos

he was prob the best defender on the #1 ranked drtg team in 98

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/1998.html'

also the bobcats had terrible defenders around him and were an expansion team so it's not surprising that a average/good defender imo in knight didn't help them that much

01-05-2011 , 04:38 PM

#16611

BobboFitos

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Originally Posted by EPiPeN11

Brevin Knight was a rookie. You're telling me a midget rookie anchored the best defense in the league that year? GTFO.

I think that team's defense had much more to do with the power combo of Shawn Kemp + Big Z. The two combined for about 63 mpg and only missed 1 game the entire season.

01-05-2011 , 04:44 PM

#16612

EPiPeN11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BobboFitos

it was mostly a joke at u calling kemp an incredible defender like 3 years ago. Yeah knight wasn't the best defender on the team but I don't think he was a bad defender, he was probably above average imo.

Also obv that team ran really well in terms of variance to be the #1 drtg, they were prob like in the 7-8 range.

01-05-2011 , 04:48 PM

#16613

dkmx

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Brandon Jennings can dunk? Rigged for Griffin.

01-05-2011 , 04:56 PM

#16614

SnotBoogy

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great lol

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5991886

01-05-2011 , 05:09 PM

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BobboFitos

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EPiPeN11

it was mostly a joke at u calling kemp an incredible defender like 3 years ago. Yeah knight wasn't the best defender on the team but I don't think he was a bad defender, he was probably above average imo.

Also obv that team ran really well in terms of variance to be the #1 drtg, they were prob like in the 7-8 range.

Uhh, he was an incredible defender.

01-05-2011 , 05:16 PM

#16616

EPiPeN11

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lol

01-05-2011 , 05:18 PM

#16617

SchererBoy

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Bobbo, would I be allowed to read the insider stuff w/ Hollinger if I had a espn the mag subscription?

01-05-2011 , 05:19 PM

#16618

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Originally Posted by SchererBoy

Bobbo, would I be allowed to read the insider stuff w/ Hollinger if I had a espn the mag subscription?

yes...

01-05-2011 , 05:23 PM

#16619

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OK. I'm checking the espn.com website, and see nothing about insider stuff. Can u point me in the direction of where I need to sign up or w/e.

EDIT: nvm, I found it.

01-05-2011 , 05:28 PM

#16620

tarheeljks

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top right corner

01-05-2011 , 06:53 PM

#16621

Jetto

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will be watching SA @ BOS and LAL@ phx game

01-05-2011 , 07:23 PM

#16622

All-inMcLovin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Etats360

Griffin's gonna crush that slam dunk contest

I hope he recreates the Dome Dunk to win the contest. Heck, fly in Mozgov for this dunk too.

If there's any place to bet on this, bet the house on Griffin obv.

Jennings can sorta barely dunk, to perform in the dunk contest is lolz.

How much would it take to get Lebron to compete in this? $1 million USD?

Let's start a fund. Let's collect 10 cents each from 10 million NBA fans.

01-05-2011 , 07:44 PM

#16623

SchererBoy

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I'm not sure you'd see anything spectacular from lbj either. He's another in game dunker. But I'd put $1 in the pool to get him in once.

01-05-2011 , 07:57 PM

#16624

All-inMcLovin

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlxuwqFpvSo

Ibaka has already won a dunk contest, and he's dunked (easily) from the free throw line.

This could be interesting..

Brandon Jennings only has 2 in-game dunks this year. lol

01-05-2011 , 08:07 PM

#16625

McBeef

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MEbenhoe

Awful. I love Nash but you don't throw away Y$ to get him. Lets not go and recreate the Ray Allen for 1/2 season of Gary Payton deal.

ym sucks, and if he's dumb enough to stay in that dunk contest he should be immediately traded. i'm sure he's pretty good for a short guy but serge/grffin/mcgee is gonna be nice and bj is gonna get laughed at. they're gonna need to hook up those rim mics nicely

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