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11-14-2009 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishHand
It's even harder to trade guys like Maggette and SJax when they aren't playing and playing well. The optimal strategy, imo, is to start those two, give them 35mpg and lots of shots while shopping them aggressively. Once they're gone for fodder, you can give those minutes to the younger guys.
Yeah, I agree, but I meant if unable to pursue a trade, you need to just bench them and let the youngsters play. The warriors arent going anywhere with the vets; clearly showcasing them for other teams is the A+ approach, but if that fails, they shouldnt be playing major minutes.

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Evidently, CLE balking because of the cap issue and the C depth issue. I'd recommend SJax+Turiaf for Z. (Also cap-legal - shame on you for proposing cap-illegal deal. Some N2 owner you are.)
Co-owner! Cvig handles the day-to-day, obv!! I'm just the big picture guy, LDO.
Yeah, Turiaf is a nice throw in since he can soak up minutes. Plus if/when he plays the Lolkers in the finals, there's an interesting storyline there for the media.

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This one I like.
It makes so much sense but Jeff Bower sucks, so it wont happen.

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0% chance that NJN would even consider this. When you're a bottom-5 team praying for lotto and FA luck, you don't go for a short-term improvement and massive FA-space loss. Wright doesn't come close to justifying it imo.
Meh, that's the whole thing. IF they feel Wright is legit-possible star to pair with Brook, you pull the trigger. You then have a core of Devin Harris, Courtney Lee, Corey Maggette, Brandan Wright, Brook Lopez. This is a young 5 some where you have outside shooting, post presence, ability to drive/finish, etc. Plus you have 2 solid defenders to nullify Maggette, a post defender and a solid weakside helper in Wright. Def a young nucleus which could do damage. (IF you think Brandan Wright is a future all-star; if not, no way they do it)

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DeRozan plays like 14 minutes a game and is a fringe rotation player. Are you that eager to watch Weems get those minutes and hoist a few awful shots each game on the off chance you get a fastbreak dunk?
Yeah, I like what they're doing with DeMar. Limited playing time, but he plays with the starters for important minutes. He's super raw, but he's learning.
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11-14-2009 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
LOL at how this thread has very quietly adopted the Raps.
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11-14-2009 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by chim17
It's 8:40 AM.. yet to sleep. Fun, crazy night.. go to bed now or just roll right into my Saturday?

Also, I'm, still drunk if that matters.
Roll into saturday LDO
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11-14-2009 , 02:13 PM
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Yes...tell me more...


Fail.
Sadly my love light is a little unusual right now. Case and point, my ex gf just walked out of my bathroom with only a towel on, but there will be no boning. ... And im on 2p2. well, shower time for bobbo
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11-14-2009 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NameOnTheCake
was dicking around on youtube and found this Jordan dunk I had never seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzuQ-Z9vKSc&NR=1
Me neither, crazy. That would make a sick avatar for someone, I'll take it if no one else claims it...
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11-14-2009 , 02:45 PM
since I missed all the jibber jabber last night, Oden with zero TO's last night! What a legend in the making imo! Also, obligatory LMA +/- post,. +14 with 13 rebounds and 20 points. Soft as Untouchable IMO!
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11-14-2009 , 02:48 PM
70 degrees in cleveland today. we usually have snow by now.
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11-14-2009 , 02:48 PM
also, went out last night and did some karaoke, ended up being a long night. Had this for some late night grub:



Thats Jumbalaya from Montage, damn, that **** was bomb, best jumbalaya I've ever had, and super spicy to boot. Also, cornbread ftw.
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11-14-2009 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
LOL at how this thread has very quietly adopted the Raps.
smartest front office in basketball ldo
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11-14-2009 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishHand
It's even harder to trade guys like Maggette and SJax when they aren't playing and playing well. The optimal strategy, imo, is to start those two, give them 35mpg and lots of shots while shopping them aggressively. Once they're gone for fodder, you can give those minutes to the younger guys.

I think I agree with Bobbo here. I don't think they will be able to trade SJax no matter what. He's not going to play well enough for a team to think it's a good idea to take on that contract. I think the best bet is to just give him the Marbury treatment and tell him to **** off. The Knicks had a similar problem last year. They knew guys like Marbury and Curry weren't going to be around long term so they parked them on the bench and let the guys who might be around play. It made the team more fun to watch and might have even made them better.
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11-14-2009 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
Bobby Simmons has a TON of value since he's a 10.5m expiring. Come on, use some sense Josh.

The only reason the Nets would do it is BECAUSE of Brandan Wright, which is why you need to package him in there.

The Woyas are down on him, but I agree, he could be good in the NBA. Just needs an opportunity. He'd be the starting PF for the Nets, so I call that opportunity.
it's not like the warriors are in cap hell though and have to get rid of maggette's contract. furthermore what is this 10 mil in capspace gonna give them? almost all of the big name free agents will resign with their current teams for more money than the warriors can offer, and if one or more of those free agents decide to leave I highly doubt it will to be to go to a team like golden state.

a 3 bigman rotation of biedrins/randolph/wright could be sick in a few years if randolph/wright develop. I don't see what your trade accomplishes at all in terms of making the team better.
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11-14-2009 , 03:07 PM
I very highly doubt that Brandan Wright will ever be as good as $10.5 million player, assuming they spend it correctly.

It's moot anyway as the Nets would never, ever do this.
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11-14-2009 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TheUntouchable
I very highly doubt that Brandan Wright will ever be as good as $10.5 million player, assuming they spend it correctly.
I very much disagree
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11-14-2009 , 03:09 PM
Also, I love when people refer to other posters by their first name.
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11-14-2009 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by EPiPeN11
I very much disagree
Well you're certainly entitled do and it's definitely a matter of opinion, but I think you'll be in the minority here. $10.5 million is going to be like 20% of the new cap. That's usually reserved for nearly elite players. Don't forget that $10.5 million will be able to buy a much better player than it has in the past.
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11-14-2009 , 03:26 PM
11-14-2009 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaSaltCracka
also, went out last night and did some karaoke, ended up being a long night. Had this for some late night grub:



Thats Jumbalaya from Montage, damn, that **** was bomb, best jumbalaya I've ever had, and super spicy to boot. Also, cornbread ftw.
Kinda random, but I had Montages Alligator Jumbalaya on Wed night. It was amazing.
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11-14-2009 , 03:56 PM
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I think I agree with Bobbo here. I don't think they will be able to trade SJax no matter what. He's not going to play well enough for a team to think it's a good idea to take on that contract.
Never underestimate the short-sightedness of NBA GMs. Far worse contracts than his have been dealt in recent history.

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I think the best bet is to just give him the Marbury treatment and tell him to **** off. The Knicks had a similar problem last year. They knew guys like Marbury and Curry weren't going to be around long term so they parked them on the bench and let the guys who might be around play. It made the team more fun to watch and might have even made them better.
Very different. Curry and Marbury are barely worth playing at this point - one is a fat center who can't rebound, the other an organizational nightmare. SJax is a contributing NBA wing player who'd probably be even more valuable on a contender.

Benching/sending home $20M/year of contributing NBA players is simply illogical/counterproductive.

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Originally Posted by EPiPeN11
it's not like the warriors are in cap hell though
In my world, when you're over the cap and don't have nearly enough talent to be a legit playoff contender, you are in cap hell. Having nearly $20M/year for the next FOUR seasons locked into two guys you plain don't want is just awful.
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11-14-2009 , 04:03 PM
Random...

How the F did Jerel McNeal go undrafted this year? A friend of mine told me this and I couldn't believe it so I went and checked and was stunned to see it was true. I thought for sure this guy was a pro watching him play over the years at Marquette. Dude **** on the Big East night in and night out.
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11-14-2009 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TheUntouchable
I very highly doubt that Brandan Wright will ever be as good as $10.5 million player, assuming they spend it correctly.

It's moot anyway as the Nets would never, ever do this.
There's a chance Brandan Wright WILL be a 10.5m player though. Only minutes will tell.
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11-14-2009 , 04:17 PM
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Also, I love when people refer to other posters by their first name.
I cycle through Epeen, Epiangleshooter (my fave), and Josh.

depends on the type of post I'm trying to convey.
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11-14-2009 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishHand

In my world, when you're over the cap and don't have nearly enough talent to be a legit playoff contender, you are in cap hell. Having nearly $20M/year for the next FOUR seasons locked into two guys you plain don't want is just awful.
TOTALLY agree. the point is that even though the warriors have both young talent AND its locked up cheap, they are still in cap hell since they devote such a large portion to nearly useless players. and it will be like this for 4 years/
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11-14-2009 , 04:34 PM
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In my world, when you're over the cap and don't have nearly enough talent to be a legit playoff contender, you are in cap hell. Having nearly $20M/year for the next FOUR seasons locked into two guys you plain don't want is just awful.

the warriors will be at 54.7 mil next year (down from the 63 mil they are currently at) while losing no one productive (speedy claxton and a bunch of other smaller useless players contracts come off the books). i mean it's obv not an ideal situation but it's not god awful especially since they have a lot of young talent for good/cheap contracts.

I mean obv having 20 mil for the next 4 seasons locked into 2 guys who u don't want is not ideal but it's not like they HAVE to get rid of them especially if it's at the cost of giving away some of their young potential. I'm obv really high on brandan wright since I liked him a ton coming out of unc (wanted the celtics to draft him) and for other reasons i've already mentioned so I think getting rid of him could haunt their team for years to come. Also in 2-3 years those horrible contracts of sjax/magette actually become valueable expiring contracts.
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11-14-2009 , 04:40 PM
Should have seen Tinsley to the Grizzlies coming
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11-14-2009 , 04:45 PM
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I mean obv having 20 mil for the next 4 seasons locked into 2 guys who u don't want is not ideal
"Not ideal"? Wow.
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