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10-05-2009 , 05:55 AM
I watched a decent amount of Bobcats games last year. I guess I'd say that my biggest problem with him as a PG is his court vision. His fast break game is certainly lacking and when he's running plays it kinda looks like he's just going through the motions. I say this only in relation to other NBA PGs.
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10-05-2009 , 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
where do you see him as lacking fundamentally? i will admit that i saw maybe 10-15 bobcats games last year


edit: i'll pull an assani here and note that his scouting report on draftexpress lists fundamentals as a strength
I disagree with them that he has flawed fundamentals. He just doesn't appear to have much natural instinct as a true PG.
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10-05-2009 , 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TheUntouchable
I watched a decent amount of Bobcats games last year. I guess I'd say that my biggest problem with him as a PG is his court vision. His fast break game is certainly lacking and when he's running plays it kinda looks like he's just going through the motions. I say this only in relation to other NBA PGs.
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Originally Posted by TheUntouchable
I disagree with them that he has flawed fundamentals. He just doesn't appear to have much natural instinct as a true PG.
I watched fewer than 10 Bobcats games last season, and this is what I came away with.

I'll make a caveat though, he did show good ability as a scorer, so that if he is on a team that only needs him to do that, I think he'd be a very fine starter.

Last edited by tbach24; 10-05-2009 at 06:03 AM. Reason: then again, so would Eddie House
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10-05-2009 , 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sethypooh21
I think it's perfectly defensible to say that a team is going to have a harder time winning with an LMA than with a Ty Thomas, even though LMA is probably a "better" player, if that makes sense.
Well this is a bit unclear. I can understand if someone argues that a Ty Thomas fits into their team better than Aldridge, and their particular team would be more successful with Thomas rather than Aldridge.

I do not understand the simple Thomas(or Lee)>LMA
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10-05-2009 , 06:09 AM
that's fair and like i said i didn't see that many of their games. from what little i saw and from this scouting report he has the potential to be an average starter. a # of the various flaws listed above are noted as strengths in his scouting report:


- Transition play
- Fundamentals
- Court vision
- Basketball instincts

edit: so i guess opinions vary wildly about him
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10-05-2009 , 06:15 AM
It's possible he's capable of being more of a true PG but took a scoring role at his or the coaches discretion since that team had so much trouble scoring.
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10-05-2009 , 06:15 AM
Also, they took him over Brookie

This starting 5:
Felton
JRich
Wallace
Okafor
Lopez

Playoff caliber
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10-05-2009 , 06:20 AM
yeah i'm not sure why they didn't take lopez. they are the closest i come to being a real fan of a specific team and i was a little disappointed when they took dj

this discussion begs the question of who you consider to be an average starting nba pg
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10-05-2009 , 06:22 AM
I still think they should have made the playoffs last year. They lost a lot of close games and I think they were better than Detroit.
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10-05-2009 , 06:28 AM
Baron Davis
Eric Gordon
Steve Novak
Blake Griffin
Chris Kaman/Marcus Camby (whoever is healthy)

with

Bassy, Rasual Butler, Al Thornton and Craig Smith filling out the rotation

Playoff caliber
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10-05-2009 , 06:28 AM
GAHHH when is Hollinger gonna do his projected PERs
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10-05-2009 , 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tbach24
Baron Davis
Eric Gordon
Steve Novak
Blake Griffin
Chris Kaman/Marcus Camby (whoever is healthy)

with

Bassy, Rasual Butler, Al Thornton and Craig Smith filling out the rotation

Playoff caliber
blake griffin would need to be particularly filthy b/c even w/camby they would get obliterated on d imo

maybe not filthy, but borderline all star
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10-05-2009 , 06:32 AM
I'm kinda rooting for the Clips because they are such losers and I like Blake but I'd be pretty surprised to see them actually get in.
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10-05-2009 , 07:52 AM
10-05-2009 , 07:55 AM
7.5 APM
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10-05-2009 , 08:03 AM
a couple of teams i am high/low on:

high--

spurs: old as ****, but improved depth should go a long way towards keeping duncan/ginobili healthy. they will likely have to trade some reg season wins to get to the playoffs intact so i expect a middling seed like last year, but a team w/a much higher ceiling


heat: wade should continue to beast and they had major contributions from rookies improvement from beasley will go a long way since he was their 2nd option on offense (~28% usg). chalmers is only a role player (defense, shooting), but he was 2nd on the team in minutes. o'neal isn't great but he should also be a big boost on d, especially as beasley's minutes rise, b/c they were pretty weak on the inside w/haslem playing center. they won't contend but i wouldn't be shocked to see them win 48 games/grab the 4 seed

low:


wizards: they were good when arenas was in his hey day, but i don't think they were that good. comp is tougher now and there are no guarantees regarding arenas' health. they have better depth now though so they should make the playoffs but i'm thinking somewhere the 6 seed rather than the 4. even if the hibachi lights the 4 seed is their ceiling (barring a major injury) and it's not particularly unlikely that he can't make it through the full season


mavericks: they will probably have a good record and a decent seed, but i don't see the upside. even if dirk becomes super filthy again as opposed to just very, very good i can't really envision a scenario where they contend. maybe if they find some interior d





players that i'll follow closely (besides the top players):

brook lopez
russell westbrook
d.j. augustin (per the recent discussion)
anyone who went to unc (that gets minutes)
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10-05-2009 , 08:14 AM
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Oh god im so scared of the blazers. Especially that greg oden. Word is he looks great in preseason and is primed for 9 and 8 this year. Also Juwan Howard.
Oden's going for 15 and 10 this year.
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10-05-2009 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by tbach24
Baron Davis
Eric Gordon
Steve Novak
Blake Griffin
Chris Kaman/Marcus Camby (whoever is healthy)

with

Bassy, Rasual Butler, Al Thornton and Craig Smith filling out the rotation

Playoff caliber
I love Novak being a Marquette guy, but there is no way he should ever be a starter in the NBA.
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10-05-2009 , 08:26 AM
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Such as? Who out there has a 3 that is too quick for Odom, and also doesn't have anyone Odom could cross-match to, letting Kobe or RonRon take the 3? Of those, how many will be able to guard even 2/3 of Odom/RonRon/Kobe on the other end?


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http://www.sporcle.com/games/jrocke1/NBAcareers

I'm absolutely baffled by this one
Worst sporcle ever. I do not want to have to click over to another box to write that one in. Sporcle is a free for all and one of the great joys is hitting two answers with one entry, and knowing you wouldn't have gotten the other one.

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So can someone fill me in on these ABSURD FT numbers in these ****ing pre-season games? I mean, are pre-season games usually full of 50-60 free throws, or is it the ****ing moron new idiot refs? Seriously this is absurd if during the regular season they're going to be sending moron bench players to the line 12 times.
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I have to say, if people are going to put these ****ing stupid sporcle crap links in this thread and then 502905923 people will post their scores that nobody cares about I'm going to flip a ****. Jesus ****ing christ I HATE whenever I waste my life reading a post about that garbage. ITS BASKETBALL SEASON NOT TRIVIA SEASON MAKE YOUR OWN THREAD FOR THAT
Dschm still got it. Didn't even have to read past this to know the next 20-30 replies would be directed at him.

He's like The Rock (as a villian) in his prime.
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10-05-2009 , 08:32 AM
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oh sweet kobe is on the 2k10 box. he's gettin' hurt. Belee dat
This really tested my love for the 2K series.

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And also, GTFO with the ESPN trade machine garbage-- prob created by hollidonk and has some dumb **** formula in it that is inconsistent and probably often results in absurd results. Using ESPN trade machine to back up a trade idea is just lunacy, you're better than that TU
rofl

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Honestly, I'd be considering trading LMA. It's not likely, but I'd be shopping him for sure. Like, could they possibly work something out with TOR if Toronto thinks they have no chance at keeping Bosh, and they think they can convince Bosh to stay in POR and go for titles with Roy+Bosh? That sorta thing.
Whatever they got for LMA would probably be more than he's worth, so I support this. However looks like he put on a lot of muscle this offseason, and if it doesn't affect his shooting, he could be more valuable in the post now.

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Aight guys, I never posted in previous NBA Season Threadzilla's but I'm going to do my best to keep up in this one, Bulls fan for sure, love to see D. Rose breakin fools off....interesting sidenote of information, when I was a senior in high school my BBall team beat D. Rose's Simeon team in the state playoffs when he was a sophomore, knew he was gonna be a freak then after witnessing him snap my boy Bobby Frasor's ankles about 25 times lol.

Last year was the first season I followed the NBA closely in several years, I stopped watching after the Kings lost that 7 game series vs the Lakers in 2002, the riggedness/reffing of that series was a real turn off for me towards the NBA and I honestly thought I would never be able to enjoy it again, but now with The King/ Kobe / CP3 and up and comers like D-Rose, Durant, and Brandon Roy the level of play is bringing me back to what were (for me) the glory days: the two Bull's three-peats and the Rockets 2-peat in between. The Western Conference team that I really like is Denver, JR and Birdman has to be the greatest/most hilarious duo off the bench I have ever seen.

JR/Birdman really is one of the more hilarious duos I can think of.

Do not approve of Bobby Frasor bashing in my thread tho!
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10-05-2009 , 08:32 AM
DID YOU NOT WITNESS NOVAK HIT THAT GAME WINNING 3 LAST SEASON??????
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10-05-2009 , 08:38 AM
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DID YOU NOT WITNESS NOVAK HIT THAT GAME WINNING 3 LAST SEASON??????
I witnessed him hit plenty more when he was at Marquette. He's a great shooter for his size, but he has absolutely zero other NBA level abilities.
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10-05-2009 , 09:12 AM
One handed basketball player.

http://thehoopdoctors.com/online2/20...kes-the-court/

Better than Asseni.
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10-05-2009 , 09:18 AM
force him left?
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