I'm gonna break down the entire timeline of LOLs in this supposed Mayo/Ellis trade talks:

1. Memphis offers Mayo and Thabeet to Golden State for Monta Ellis -wtf are you doing, Mayo > Ellis, LOL MEMPHIS

2. Golden State doesn't insta-accept - LOL GOLDEN STATE

3. Golden State says we'll do it if you take Thabeet out of the deal - WTF? This is essentially saying Thabeet's contract is negative value at this point in his nba career which is insane, considering he has solid per36 numbers and a lot of upside. And even if you hate Thabeet you can turn down your team option you'd have for his 3rd and 4th seasons on his rookie contract and he'd become an expiring contract next season, LOL GOLDEN STATE

4. Memphis rejects Golden State's offer of doing the deal with Thabeet out of it - While I may not agree with Memphis' apparent line of thinking that Monta > OJ, once you've made that leap, you absolutely have to accept the counter-offer of them saying ok we'll do it but you keep Thabeet for the same reasoning why Golden State would be insane to say you need to take Thabeet out of the deal, LOL MEMPHIS


So all in all, we're either dealing with the two most inept front offices in the NBA (quite possible), or these rumors were nothing more than mindless rumors.

haddadi has been playing better as of late and better than thabeet did for the most part. thabeet has been a joke at times on the court.

Apparently soon to be joined by Hasheem Thabeet.

Dejuan Blair is laughing his ass off somewhere right now

The problem is his shot selection, not his shooting. Obviously his shooting has room for improvement, but his woeful percentages have been due to selection. He strikes me as a player that's always going to be high variance night in and night out. Obviously it's nice to reap the rewards of a player like that occasionally, but it also sucks bad when he sucks. This is the number one reason I'd prefer Lawson and maybeee Curry (Evans is obv). Both of those players are smarter and should be much more consistent.

I think the Memphis front office is above average so I really doubt the rumors are true at all. It's definitely possible they offered Mayo for Ellis and it's definitely possible that GS turned it down.

hmm.. I haven't read all this extra stuff about them wanting the deal without beatup thabeet. if that's true, this whole thing plays out like thabeet is a really, really bad contract and both sides know OJ>Ellis.

but how can it be that bad? Whole thing makes no sense. Contract wouldn't be awful even if he was guaranteed to never play again. Think the whole thing is made up.

I think the whole thing is made up, and am mostly using it as another excuse to beat up on Thabeet.

lol gtfo i mean the memphis gm is chris wallace

all that really needs to be said

it looks like it was made up (the part about them wanting to do the deal without thabeet but not with him). And i'd be shocked if both sides didn't think ellis > oj

What has he done so bad?

I'd rather be .500 in 2010 with four of my starters being under 24 than win 50 games and lose in the first round every year with Pau Gasol. Hating on Wallace is just bitterness that he helped out the Lakers.

EDIT: I mean in Memphis only. It's possible he's improved since Boston. LOL Joe Johnson.

he was a beyond terrible gm with the celtics

among moves he made

traded joe johnson for rodney rogers and tony delk

traded for vin baker who had a ridiculous contract and crippled the celtics for years

his only 1 good move with the celtics was drafting paul pierce who was considered a lock top 5 pick (and possibly top 3) who amazingly slipped to #10

then with memphis he traded away pau gasol for scraps (marc gasol was scraps at the time)

also traded for zbo's awful contract, yea it worked out but it's results oriented thinking since the chances of the time of it working out were very slim

pp top 5 mebbe top 3 in his class

Just to clarify, my edit was in long before your post.

Whether the Pau trade worked out or not is meaningless. The trade showed that he has the right attitude towards rebuilding a team. A lot of front offices haven't shown that ability. I also think it's not totally fair to give them no credit for thinking Marc might be really good.

He also signed Aaron Barzilai, which was probably a pretty good move.

He signed Haddadi and you guys doubt him? Haters.

oh come on you don't trade a star like gasol for that type of package they got in return, it's terrible. you either trade him and get more in return or u keep him, it's not like gasol was begging to get out of memphis iirc

they were also bad enough with gasol that they could have found a way to lose games and get high draft picks as is. infact they traded him in the middle of a season where they were losing a ton and were gonna get a high draft pick anyway.

Haddadi killed it in their last game.

15 minutes, 8 points (3-4 FG), 8 rebounds, 1 block, and a +14.

The only reason the trade was bad was because they could have gotten more back. It wasn't terrible though because it put their franchise in good shape.

Anyway, I'm not claiming Wallace is a genius or anything (He's drafted horribly. Carroll and Thabeet were both terrible first round picks, though Sam Young was great for a second rounder. If they take Evans or get Rubio instead of Thabeet, that would be a pick that they never could have got if they didn't trade Pau), but he deserves more credit than to think those Mayo/Thabeet rumors could even possibly be true.

the trade pau gasol was bad and the only reason it wasn't terrible is cause marc gasol turned out far better than expected. infact i remember memphis/the media hyping up javaris crittenton more than marc gasol.

if the grizzles had pau gasol instead of what they got for him they would be a far better team and in better shape even with the marc gasol surprise.

awesome as usual

guys,

ball

Disagree with this. Marc Gasol is going to be just as good as Pau anyway and they'll have him for 5+ more years than they would have had Pau. They also wouldn't have Randolph or Thabeet without that trade and they arguably don't get OJ. If they didn't botch the Thabeet pick they'd be in inarguably better shape right now.

has upside ever meant anything other than tall and sucks?