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04-26-2018 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jwax13
Largest playoff comeback of all time. Lol. This team is dumb. Sports are stupid.


LOL SPORTSAMENTS
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04-26-2018 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowfever
So Russ got angry
And Billy Donovan grew a brain.
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04-26-2018 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
Melo was kinda big on defense down the stretch, he's never been terrible 1on1. Totally agree about the switching part, force DM to take jumpers which he sucks at, and RR + Ingles to make layups which they suck at.



Might be too late though.


I mean, he’s fine in 1 on 1 iso defense, but Grant just does so much more. His weak side help, cutting, energy, etc. I’d also rather have a Grant open 3 > Melo at this point.

Billy should start Russ, Abrines, PG, Grant and Adams G6, but he won’t. It’s probably too little too late, but I’m glad the world got to see the entire Russell Westbrook experience.
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04-26-2018 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
I didn't say Oladipo didn't play like an all-star and didn't have an all star year. I said I don't think he is really an all-star.

He had a nice year, Indy overachieved but I don't see him as a top 25 NBA player. And honestly I'm not shocked he's sucked this series. Yeah, there were issues in OKC last year but for a guy to play that bad, it isn't something we can just 100% attribute to "LOL RUSS"

He's not that good.

If Beal or Wall or DD or Russ or someone else was having the series that Dipo has had vs 1 of the worst defenses in the league, we would be ****ing killing them. He's just a nice player who overachieved so we don't care tho.
How long would convince you it's not a fluke?

He upped his USG from 21.4 to 30.1 and posted a 23/5/4/2/1 line while having the best TS% of his career (he's actually improved TS% each of his 5 years in the league).

He's 2nd among NBA SGs in PER at 23.1. Butler leads at 23.7 and Tyreke is 3rd at 21.16

He's the leader in Est. Wins Added for SGs at 16, DeRozen is 2nd at 14.2.

17 among all players in total +/- and 13th overall in VORP

It seems like he's at least pretty good.

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04-26-2018 , 12:13 AM
I'm just here to call Oubre an almost equal flopper to Smart
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04-26-2018 , 12:18 AM
wtf. Jazz were up 71-46 when i left work. I get home and am told they lost?!?
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04-26-2018 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jwax13
I mean, he’s fine in 1 on 1 iso defense, but Grant just does so much more. His weak side help, cutting, energy, etc. I’d also rather have a Grant open 3 > Melo at this point.

Billy should start Russ, Abrines, PG, Grant and Adams G6, but he won’t. It’s probably too little too late, but I’m glad the world got to see the entire Russell Westbrook experience.
I got the variance hitting Melo like a ton of swishes the next couple games.
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04-26-2018 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
wtf. Jazz were up 71-46 when i left work. I get home and am told they lost?!?
Rubio got shut down by Russ.
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04-26-2018 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
wtf. Jazz were up 71-46 when i left work. I get home and am told they lost?!?
It was a combo of Rudy getting in foul trouble, OKC switching everything and Utah not being able to beat them, and most importantly Russ caught fire and did good-Russ things.
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04-26-2018 , 12:25 AM
The real question is which player's woman is Quin going sex tonight, and are there any good coke dealers in OKC?
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04-26-2018 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RT
How long would convince you it's not a fluke?

He uped his USG from 21.4 to 30.1 and posted a 23/5/4/2/1 line while having the best TS% of his career (he's actually improved TS% each of his 5 years in the league).

He's 2nd among NBA SGs in PER at 23.1. Butler leads at 23.7 and Tyreke is 3rd at 21.16

He's the leader in Est. Wins Added for SGs at 16, DeRozen is 2nd at 14.2.

17 among all players in total +/- and 13th overall in VORP

It seems like he's at least pretty good.
Yeah, I don't think he's an all-star caliber player. Never said he wasn't good.

He had a good year in an ideal role for him. I mean, I'm not shocked he is playing terrible, are you? He's been horrible on offense and if he was just anything close to mediocre this series is over.

If that's the case, is he an all-star?.....I get the small sample thing but you couldn't have asked for a better 1st rd opponent strictly from the perspective of him looking good offensively.

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04-26-2018 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by capone0
So you think he’s basically it3 from last years regular season celtics but likely worse in the playoffs?
Nah, he's def better than IT3. He's an elite defender, IT3 is the worst defensive player in the NBA. IT3 had the ideal role of all ideal roles, no player will ever be put in a situation to make themselves look better than they are ever again in NBA history.
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04-26-2018 , 12:32 AM
od2d, I think you're underrating Dipo by quite a lot. This has been a rough series and he's been somewhat gameplanned out, but this is also his first playoff-run as the man. He's at least a top 25 player imo even with this playoff performance.
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04-26-2018 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
Yeah, I don't think he's an all-star caliber player. Never said he wasn't good.

He had a good year in an ideal role for him. I mean, I'm not shocked he is playing terrible, are you? He's been horrible on offense and if he was just anything close to mediocre this series is over.

If that's the case, is he an all-star?
How many of their games have you watched this year? Not trying to be a smart ass, but the Pacers are about as far from most people's radar as possible.

He's played really well this year. With around 5 RS games left he had the second highest with him/without him differential of any player on the year. Obviously that's not all him, but he's been great this year on both ends.

Those stats are what they are. The Pacers were supposed to win 20-30 games and Bojan was supposed to be the scorer if Turner wasn't. They won 48 games and held serve against every top team (save for HOU...).

I can't explain away his slump now except to say he picked an awful time to suck for 4 games. Hard to call 4 games regression when he's had 83 games of better production and like I said, he's improved his shooting each and every year he's been in the league.

Dude made a lot of changes this offseason, and other than shooting 25% or so in the last 4 games, I don't see a ton of reason to doubt that helped.
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04-26-2018 , 12:38 AM
And let's be clear, if he plays at even 60% of his RS production in this series, Lebron goes home 4-1...**** my life.
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04-26-2018 , 12:46 AM
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How many of their games have you watched this year? Not trying to be a smart ass, but the Pacers are about as far from most people's radar as possible.

He's played really well this year. With around 5 RS games left he had the second highest with him/without him differential of any player on the year. Obviously that's not all him, but he's been great this year on both ends.

Those stats are what they are. The Pacers were supposed to win 20-30 games and Bojan was supposed to be the scorer if Turner wasn't. They won 48 games and held serve against every top team (save for HOU...).

I can't explain away his slump now except to say he picked an awful time to suck for 4 games. Hard to call 4 games regression when he's had 83 games of better production and like I said, he's improved his shooting each and every year he's been in the league.

Dude made a lot of changes this offseason, and other than shooting 25% or so in the last 4 games, I don't see a ton of reason to doubt that helped.
Do we really think he picked an awful time to slump for 4 games vs the worst defensive team in the playoffs? Or did the playoffs just start?

I think he's a good player and it wouldn't surprise me if he turned it around in this series because Cle is so bad, but I'd take a lot of guards over him. And I'm not surprised he's struggling really. And if I'm not surprised a player is struggling vs the Cavs then they may not be an "all-star" caliber player.

Yeah I acknowledge that ain't the most analytically sound take but just my 2 cents.
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04-26-2018 , 12:51 AM
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Do we really think he picked an awful time to slump for 4 games vs the worst defensive team in the playoffs? Or did the playoffs just start?

I think he's a good player and it wouldn't surprise me if he turned it around in this series because Cle is so bad, but I'd take a lot of guards over him. And I'm not surprised he's struggling really. And if I'm not surprised a player is struggling vs the Cavs then they may not be an "all-star" caliber player.

Yeah I acknowledge that ain't the most analytically sound take but just my 2 cents.
Can't really correct a dude on how he feels, so fair enough.
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04-26-2018 , 12:53 AM
For years people couldn't explain Lowry's postseason slump after being a top 10-15 guy in the regular season as well. Not saying they're the same player but some guys just aren't as good in the playoffs as regular season. Now basically everyone agrees Derozan has to be their best player to be successful in the playoffs.

Sometimes guys just run bad and get into bad matchups in series, sometimes they're playing hurt and we don't know it. But some guys are just better regular season players. Maybe that won't turn out to be true with Oladipo but it is a thing.
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04-26-2018 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
That was so great, 25 point comeback in minutes and then never let up
definitely thought they would lose some steam at some point in the fourth. but nah.

they played the quality defense that they showed in game 1.

but theyre mostly able to win because Playoff P playoff peed. Carmelonoma only played 25 minutes. Gobert and Favors were limited with trash fouls. and a 29% shooter hit 5 threes.
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04-26-2018 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
Do we really think he picked an awful time to slump for 4 games vs the worst defensive team in the playoffs? Or did the playoffs just start?

I think he's a good player and it wouldn't surprise me if he turned it around in this series because Cle is so bad, but I'd take a lot of guards over him. And I'm not surprised he's struggling really. And if I'm not surprised a player is struggling vs the Cavs then they may not be an "all-star" caliber player.

Yeah I acknowledge that ain't the most analytically sound take but just my 2 cents.
It being the playoffs didn't stop him dropping 32 points on 19 shots in Game 1. It's a 3 game slump, they happen.

If you 'just dont like him' then fine, but he was objectively great all season and will likely make an All-NBA team. Definitely aren't more than a few guards I'd take over him.

I mean sure he's been awful but it's been 3 games. It's not like he's having the worst playoffs of the 6 guards who will likely make All-NBA. Do you feel the same way about Lillard?
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04-26-2018 , 01:17 AM
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For years people couldn't explain Lowry's postseason slump after being a top 10-15 guy in the regular season as well. Not saying they're the same player but some guys just aren't as good in the playoffs as regular season. Now basically everyone agrees Derozan has to be their best player to be successful in the playoffs.

Sometimes guys just run bad and get into bad matchups in series, sometimes they're playing hurt and we don't know it. But some guys are just better regular season players. Maybe that won't turn out to be true with Oladipo but it is a thing.
I think guards in general are worse in the playoffs. Lowry as mentioned, CP3 and Harden are two that get thrown around a bit, we just saw it with Lillard and yea Oladipo. Even Curry has been disappointing in playoffs compared to his god-like regular season play.

My theory is that when everyone is tuned in 100% and against all the best players, physical gifts matter more, whereas being smart/skillful is better in the regular season because it allows players to make good plays more 'effortlessly', and conserving energy/still being good when not completely switched on is more valuable

Just my theory, and obv it doesnt apply to all guards, particularly not the physical athletic freaks like Jordan, Wade, etc.
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04-26-2018 , 01:29 AM
I don't disagree with your premise, just a nitpick though, CP3 has been better in the playoffs pretty much across the board than in the regular season. And that's before you adjust for superior competition.
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04-26-2018 , 01:31 AM
Yea CP3's reputation for bad playoffs probably unfair. General point still pretty good I think though
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04-26-2018 , 01:33 AM
I feel like Oladipo is one of the more athletic guards we have in the league though

Agree about athleticism playing more of a role in the playoffs, not buying it as an excuse for yolodipo, who I am a fan of.
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04-26-2018 , 01:39 AM
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I feel like Oladipo is one of the more athletic guards we have in the league though
He's ridiculously athletic. Some of my favorites:



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