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05-03-2015 , 03:22 AM
hot damn what an awesome series and final game.

Just finished watch Pac/Mayweather (ugh) so I'm glad at least one sporting event delivered today.
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05-03-2015 , 03:44 AM
So does harden guard gimpy Paul so reddick isn't tiring him out running around screens all night?
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05-03-2015 , 03:52 AM
Ariza probably will guard CP3, with Terry or Prigs on Reddick. I don't think Reddick's movement is any factor - rather that the PGs we do have can't contain Paul and putting Harden on him is feasible but negating some of his offensive potential. This is what they did against Monta.
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05-03-2015 , 04:03 AM
Hou -150 according to 5D

Tough to say how much of a spike that got with CP3s injury

Also think Hou probably just goes big with Harden at PG down the stretch and Brewer/Ariza on the wings.
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05-03-2015 , 04:03 AM
SAS LAC series made up for all the annoying uninteresting 1st round cra* we had to watch.
I wasn`t even rooting for LAC as much as i didn`t wanted spurs to advance, since they would just win it all again. man that team is nuts at ballsharing, always solid, always classy. pop is GOAT.
To me Spurs are least interesting, yet the toughest team in basketball for a dacade now.
Blake was amazing this series. Really progressed big time as a player, not just a fun-to-watch dunk guy anymore. CP3 is CP3, his heart can not be denied (yea he flops etc, but w/e to me).
Amazing game, amazing series. It doesnt get any closer or more fun than this, each team winning every next game, and its tied with 8 seconds to go in game 7. man!
Lets hope for GSW-LAC, CLE-ATL are gonna be semis, and if they are anywhere close to this series playoffs would not dissapoint.
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05-03-2015 , 04:13 AM
Man just seems like everything is aligning for GSW. Spurs out, CP3 injured, Love injured, Conley injured. Still if there's another series as good as that one in the rest of the play offs I'll be happy.
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05-03-2015 , 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
Hou -150 according to 5D

Tough to say how much of a spike that got with CP3s injury

Also think Hou probably just goes big with Harden at PG down the stretch and Brewer/Ariza on the wings.
Every single person in TZ put Clippers over Rox. Time for them to put their money where their mouth is.
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05-03-2015 , 04:47 AM
rooting hard for curry now. redick was huge in the 4th with the 3's in those critical moments. CP3 clutch. flake=blake.

parker was the missing point. low performances on key players of spurs this series and they almost shipped. respect
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05-03-2015 , 04:51 AM
Blake somehow getting **** on in a series where he averaged 27/13/7/2

Clippers haters approaching Mayweather hater levels of wanting
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05-03-2015 , 05:11 AM
Lol at people acting like the Clips are/were the better team than the Spurs. They were +140 with HCA. Sure, some of the time, heck, a lot of the time they win, doesn't make them better, unless you've somehow also got AK solidly ahead of AQ preflop or something. Clips were right around 40% to win the series WITH HCA. Let that sink in. You're being results oriented to the max if you still think clips >Spurs. And now we see the Clips are again an underdog in a series. Cp3 hasn't been ruled out afaik, so how much would the line really shift if he was 100%? Maybe the Clips are "only" +110 instead of +130? Clips are dogs for a reason, they aren't as good as a lot of people in this thread think and the sportsbooks have the correct odds figured out, lol results oriented slappies.
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05-03-2015 , 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Krayz
Every single person in TZ put Clippers over Rox. Time for them to put their money where their mouth is.
easy to say with paul having gotten hurt
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05-03-2015 , 05:13 AM
But hey, a Q hit the river, so AQ is clearly at least evenly matched with AK...
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05-03-2015 , 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
easy to say with paul having gotten hurt
Lol, unless he's ruled out for multiple games it doesn't massively affect the series price. Him missing one game shifts the game line maybe 4 pt or so, which would have a ripple effect on series line but not like it shoots up or down hundreds of cents either way. Lol clips, already grasping for excuses.
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05-03-2015 , 05:51 AM
Got to see the last 6 minutes, and I don't think I've ever seen a more evenly matched game between two offenses clicking on all cylinders. Clipse showing mad WIM after losing games 3 and 5 is just awesome and so well deserved for CP3 and Blake.

Really happy for those two in particular, and ofc MATTY BARNES. That three after being down three late and SAS having a chance to go up by 5 or 6 was just mad clutch.
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05-03-2015 , 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by AncapInSomalia
Lol at people acting like the Clips are/were the better team than the Spurs. They were +140 with HCA. Sure, some of the time, heck, a lot of the time they win, doesn't make them better, unless you've somehow also got AK solidly ahead of AQ preflop or something. Clips were right around 40% to win the series WITH HCA. Let that sink in. You're being results oriented to the max if you still think clips >Spurs.
People who are insistent that the pre-event betting line is the only thing that matters are every bit as annoying as the completely results-oriented analysts who dominate ESPN et al.

Especially when they laugh at those of us who consider "AK solidly ahead of AQ preflop".
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05-03-2015 , 06:22 AM
Manu is almost obviously retiring, going to miss him so much.
I hope the Clippers destroy the Rockets now.
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05-03-2015 , 06:41 AM
Everyone talks about Green getting paid but I think Belinelli is probably gonna get a decent deal too. SA might not wanna pay him 6-7mill a year.

They kinda lucked out Mills had that injury last year and they re-signed him cheap.
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05-03-2015 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mayo
People who are insistent that the pre-event betting line is the only thing that matters are every bit as annoying as the completely results-oriented analysts who dominate ESPN et al.

Especially when they laugh at those of us who consider "AK solidly ahead of AQ preflop".
Cool, I'll be on the lookout for all your pre event lines that are so far off from what reality is, with respect to true odds to win. Should be loads and loads of money coming our way, right?

And I'm curious as to what else you think matters when you're trying to accurately predict the outcome of an event. Is this like the other guy who posted a link with STATS that claimed the cavs were 10/1 to title before the playoffs started?

You either don't bet sports, or you do bet and lose a ton. Because if you actually had a clue you wouldn't say what you said.

And obv I meant AQ ahead of AK preflop, it's so stupid to type it out that I couldn't even do it. That's basically how bad the logic is that clips win series, therefore they are the better team. It's beyond casualfan levels of stupidity. Upsets happen, this series result was a clear upset.

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05-03-2015 , 07:58 AM
All this series proved was Spurs and Clippers are on the same level. Would love to see Rockets dominate Clips and in turn get owned by GSW. Would shut all those "ZOMG travesty this is a first round series!!" up.
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05-03-2015 , 08:15 AM
GSW had 5% equity to tile pre-season.

Since the bookies' odds are always a perfect reflection of team's abilities when they dubs end up winning it all it's fair to say they got it in with QQ vs KK on the turn of a low board and rivered a queen
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05-03-2015 , 08:17 AM
Manny Pacquiao was 33% to win 8 hours ago
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05-03-2015 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AncapInSomalia
Cool, I'll be on the lookout for all your pre event lines that are so far off from what reality is, with respect to true odds to win. Should be loads and loads of money coming our way, right?

And I'm curious as to what else you think matters when you're trying to accurately predict the outcome of an event. Is this like the other guy who posted a link with STATS that claimed the cavs were 10/1 to title before the playoffs started?

You either don't bet sports, or you do bet and lose a ton. Because if you actually had a clue you wouldn't say what you said.

And obv I meant AQ ahead of AK preflop, it's so stupid to type it out that I couldn't even do it. That's basically how bad the logic is that clips win series, therefore they are the better team. It's beyond casualfan levels of stupidity. Upsets happen, this series result was a clear upset.
I never claimed that betting lines aren't relevant for making predictions. They're obviously usually the best thing. But you weren't making a prediction. You were using the pre-series line as if it was the only relevant data to analyze the series that has already happened. And that's dumb.

Your analysis is no more sophisticated than "Vegas liked the Spurs, but the Clippers won because variance happens." There's plenty of validity to that statement, but it's so vacuous as to be useless.

I'm not questioning that the Spurs were the favorites going in. I'm saying that after they played seven games, we should probably use those seven games to evaluate which team was better instead of whatever pinny said before the series started. Yes, that's results-oriented, but that doesn't make it wrong.
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05-03-2015 , 08:27 AM
Ancap, let's say a huge dog rolled in a series, logic would say the dogs aren't better b/c the pre-series data said they weren't as good. Honestly, who is saying the Clippers are better than the Spurs? The series was really close and the Clippers won a coinflip or slightly worse. Using pre-series betting lines as the entire truth also seems pretty bad. Sometimes dogs win, and sometimes vegas is also wrong. I'm not sure what was shown in the Clippers series, but who really ****ing cares.
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05-03-2015 , 08:49 AM
AnCap's "series line is obviously accurate" posting is some of the dumbest **** I've seen in a while.

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Your analysis is no more sophisticated than "Vegas liked the Spurs, but the Clippers won because variance happens." There's plenty of validity to that statement, but it's so vacuous as to be useless.
vacuous is such a good word. Also, wiz clearly lucky to sweep the raps. Check the pre-series line if you don't believe me.
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05-03-2015 , 08:58 AM
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vacuous is such a good word. Also, wiz clearly lucky to sweep the raps. Check the pre-series line if you don't believe me.
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