NBA Offseason Thread 2017 - Page 161 - Sporting Events and Fantasy Sports

This isn't true. His release is actually very clean, and normal. Don't let the cross body 'dip' confuse you.

His FT form would be his ideal jumper form, but whatever.

Ya once I started actually seeing him shoot I threw Kevin Martin into the comp w/ Livingston. I really think he's a 2, in a starting lineup anyway.

I'd have to actually see what the #'s are after a decent ss tho, I'm not saying he's a good shooter but it's definitely plausible. He does shoot 3s off the dribble.

Kidd and Rubio are much closer comps, Ball isn't like either of them.

07-14-2017 , 12:28 PM

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mullen

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Agree, Ball is actually capable of making shots at age 19 unlike Kidd or Rubio

07-14-2017 , 12:30 PM

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Scherer716

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He has to get a with a shooting coach and work on his hop, from the core down. I've noticed him hopping forward, sideways and even a slight scissor kick a few times. Meaning there's been no consistency.

He looked most comfortable walking into the shot so far in SL.

07-14-2017 , 12:31 PM

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mullen

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kidcolin

Thayer,

I'll do FTA < 2.6/g, FT% < 72%, if you also give me 3% < 36%.

Eta: $50 each cat.

Here's a decent trivia question game for TZ -

8 guys in NBA history have exceeded all 3 of these in their rookie years age 20 or earlier. Who are they?

07-14-2017 , 12:35 PM

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DodgerIrish

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First guess: Marbury

07-14-2017 , 12:37 PM

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DodgerIrish

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Woah, close.

5.0/72.7/.354 at 19

07-14-2017 , 12:37 PM

#4007

mullen

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

First guess: Marbury

35.4% from 3, barely missed the cut.

07-14-2017 , 12:39 PM

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minnesotasam

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The ignorance it takes to believe yourself capable of projecting a player's career based on summer league is astounding, amusing, and apparently very common itt.

07-14-2017 , 12:41 PM

#4009

DodgerIrish

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Some of us have actually talked about range of outcomes beyond floor of good starter and ceiling of GOAT.

He's the closest thing to an NBA Tebow regarding opinions.

07-14-2017 , 12:42 PM

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minnesotasam

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Ray Allen?

07-14-2017 , 12:43 PM

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CPHoya

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Harden?

EDIT: nm read that wrong, thought it was > 36 and > 72

EDIT2: nevermind the nm, you did mean exceeded all of those, so Harden yo!

Last edited by CPHoya; 07-14-2017 at 12:54 PM.

07-14-2017 , 12:44 PM

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kidcolin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee

It's impossible to look worse/less athletic than Otto Porter looked in 2013 Summer League. People definitely overreacting to Lonzo's lack of athleticism.

Talk to any nba guy and porter being this good is a massive shock. Exceptions don't prove rules.

07-14-2017 , 12:53 PM

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DodgerIrish

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Lillard?

eta: my bad, age

was just thinking through recent rookie years and forgot the age factor

07-14-2017 , 12:55 PM

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DodgerIrish

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Hoya,

It is.

Kyrie?

07-14-2017 , 12:56 PM

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minnesotasam

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I didn't even notice the age qualifier.

07-14-2017 , 12:57 PM

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CPHoya

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Beal?

07-14-2017 , 12:58 PM

#4017

CPHoya

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McGrady?

07-14-2017 , 12:59 PM

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DodgerIrish

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Baron Davis?

I assume Monta didn't shoot that well from 3.

07-14-2017 , 01:00 PM

#4019

DodgerIrish

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Deron Williams and/or Chris Paul?

07-14-2017 , 01:00 PM

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mullen

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Kyrie, Harden, and Beal all correct.

TMac was 1.7 FTA, 34.1% 3P, 71% FT.

07-14-2017 , 01:00 PM

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tarheeljks

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in SL it looked like ball really only had the time/space to shoot off the dribble going left. not sure he should be shooting off the dribble regardless, but most players shouldn't. even many good ones