Green and Plumlee are imo products of Horny and probably would still be regarded as zeroes in Indy. The late 1st rounder is an asset worth like $4M which woulda been alright to have but you're not getting a useful player a high %

I still see that they have the 10.5M to be under 81M, and I'm guessing the rest comes from the 5M in cap holds for open roster spots (they have to fill those with at lest minimum salary guys) plus Boguts "unlikely" bonuses and trade kicker, which count against the number. Bogut's bonuses amount to ~5M but I didn't think they'd all kick in this year, so I might be missing something.

[edit] It's 1.94 M in bonuses. So 1.94 + 3 minimum salary roster spots. That only equals ~5M--not sure where the rest is coming from or how the trade kicker comes into play wrt that number.

I wouldn't have called him a good acquisition, but bolded surprised me-- I didn't think they were expecting major minutes out of him when they dealt for him, just the occasional filler. If they traded for him expecting him to be part of the rotation (especially in the playoffs), that's pretty lol of course.

I'll give him $10 to wash my car.

Manu and Patty Mills excelling in the Finals while injured is truly inspiring. They better resign Patty.

Too rexy. Prob can't clean the roof.

The fact of the matter is that some things that are obvious to TZ are not obvious to all GM's and coaches. Granger was playing 23 mpg when he was traded, those had to go somewhere and it's clear they were envisioning turner as a key piece by making the move.

Yeah I figured you were getting your numbers from somewhere legit, you almost always do, didn't mean to come off like I thought you were pulling it from the arse. The deal seems fine given the Wizards situation where Gortat is the difference between one-and-done team and ECF contender.

They have 12 players under contract counting Livingston. Bonuses and kickers could do it, I don't know where to find that info. It's doubtful they gave a full MLE and are exactly at the hard cap. How much room is left could make quite a difference for getting a Love deal done. I guess the bonuses of incoming and outgoing players would matter too.

Smart GMs much have such an edge getting every penny out of the rules. If the owner lets them go after talent.

It's a pretty small car.
Hmm, I hadn't realized Granger was taking up so many minutes. I just figured he was sort of an injury/lost cause at that point, so it was more of a "Hey, we can either get zero minutes, or we can see if this guy has figured it out, and if he hasn't, we can still get zero minutes."

There was a surprising line of suitors for Granger after Philly buy-out

For example he could've rang'd in SA if he desired

No credit? Damn.

nit: re-sign.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/f...oid-turnovers/

Seth has been doing a pretty great job pumped out loads of articles.

They have 12 dudes under contract/holds so they have no additional roster holds, I BELIEVE that Pincus (guy who does basketball insiders cap stuff) updates his numbers to include bonii, so I don't think there's extra for Bogut.

dear richard tanner,



thanks

thanks seth! people that give no credit are pretty much nazis

Pretty much, Larry Bird is going to be the next Joe Dumars, hits the jackpot with a couple of moves and that buys him enough goodwill to stick around for 5 more years of making the worst move possible at every opportunity.

Why couldn't we just pay Lance with some of the money we wasted on Copeland and CJ Miles?

I took it off of Twitter, beyond that I don't know who from. Sorry if I stole your chart

If Pau goes to OKC, think Perk is finally gone?

Heh, figured everyone who follows me on twitter from in here knows that's me, no worries.

interesting thing windy said when he was on zach lowe's podcast: (paraphrasing) if you wanna work in the nba, crunching numbers is not a good in. the one big talent/ability vacuum in the nba atm is guys who are legitimately expert-level at understanding the cba and how the cap works. windy said there's 5-6 guys in the nba who are legit cap gurus

lol nba if you can't just hire a cpl lawyers to buckle down for a few months and learn the cba. still, this makes sense, unless your owner is really behind you like cubes, analytics guys seem to have very little power and are not particularly in demand. whereas there are lots of math nerds eager to work in sports. conversely, competent lawyers generally make decent money doing other things

not to presume too much but it doesn't sound like kbfc's input goes very far in toronto given what the coach says. pretty weird considering how great their analytic tools looked last yr (i assume they are even better)

ps: seems like there's some pretty cap-fluent writers out there, mark deeks (shamsports) particularly. nate duncan seems to know his stuff too, this is a good article from him about this fa period and the contracts we're seeing: http://www.basketballinsiders.com/en...s-new-reality/

*bonuses

I really hope Pau ends up with OKC, Spurs, or the Bulls, but it just feels like bs to try and force Miami to find the money. He makes more sense on Miami, but I hope they simply can't afford him. Can OKC offer more than MLE?

Patty signed for 3 years with Spurs