who else is a FA for orlando

im too lazy to look

oops!

gortat is a restricted FA

ok the more i think about varying hedo FA scenarios (sa, portland, rockets) i think he's gone from the magic

Yea, but Artest would be a nightmare at the 4 for basically every team in the league.

hrmm, I really have no idea, it makes sense for them in some ways but they are also super young and will be looking to extend a lot of players

Believe me, I looked into this awhile back. But it turns out that EYESCREW started to post better, isn't really a troll but just a homer, and the clincher was that Vyse would never send a PM to an admin to bitch about me and draw attention to himself as EYESCREW did.

Vyse was just a classic troll, constantly shifting his opinions to whatever was necessary to piss someone off. In the end I guess he was a Lakers homer but he did so much bitching about them it was hard to tell. At other times I seemed to think he was a Spurs homer when it suited him. More than anything I think he hated everything. Presumably he's still around in some capacity but I suppose he may have actually just disappeared. Who knows.

Re: overpaying for players with big postseasons. I don't get why, in this day and age of advanced statistics, teams still do this. Apparently they can't help themselves. "He's made a lot of money for himself this playoffs." But why? Everyone knows it's a small sample size abberation. For example, Pietrus is a passable role player who had a mediocre, injury-filled season in which he ably defended two of the best players in the league. Is that worth $8M per or whatever? What about those nights when he's guarding Grant Hill instead of Kobe Bryant? Worth the extra money? I just don't understand why when everyone knows that this person is going to be overpaid why someone just goes ahead and does it anyway.

HAI GUYS GUESS WHO THIS ****** IS



HINT: IT'S JOSH SMITH VS MIAMI

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/portland.htm

stevie franchise and raef just came off their books - darius comes off in 09/10 - they are paul allen owned - you're right in that there's some Roy money coming up but if they think hedo is a good piece for them to get them into the elite (and i think he is) - i can see it happening hedo to porltand FA

wasn't the extension signed in november? this question is a lot tougher if bynum doesn't get injured

semtex - it was, but how well was bynum playing up until the injury? i guess with the 2nd injury to bynum it's a nobrainer question, so nm

Also, Hawks logo = Pac Man obv. wakka wakka wakka.

Yea, I actually agree. Portland is probably in better shape than anyone to grab another piece. They may go after Artest, and if that doesn't work then Hedo.

the rockets would just as soon keep mcgrady before giving turkoglu a big deal. if tmac is good to go he will be at least as good as turkoglu and his contract is up at the end of this coming season

My favorite trade proposal from today's Hoopsworld chat:


Ben in Oklahoma City:
Would Dallas trade Dirk to OKC for #3, Collison, and Watson?

tuq- Couple of reasons:

1) Beyond the advanced metric stuff, there really are a lot of people who really do believe that the playoffs are something more than just extra basketball games against better than average teams and that every player on a good team contains within him magic winning pixie dust. They count da ringz: A team WITH Pietrus won 59 games and went to the Finals. Their team, WITHOUT Pietrus won way fewer games and didn't go to the Finals. If you do the algebra you can clearly see that Pietrus is worth $8M a year.

2) Some of it is just winner's curse stuff. Look at Ariza. Some people think his 3pt shooting improvement is for real and he'll be a >40% shooter, some people think it isn't and he'll be a 32% shooter, and some people think something in the middle. The people in the middle are most likely to be right, but the people who think he's really a top notch 3pt guy are going to win the auction for his services.

3) Finally, bad teams with cap space make bad decisions NOW for the same reason they ended up as a bad team with cap space: they are run by idiots.

good points

what's the latest on mcgrady's injury? i mean, i can see them not wanting to gamble on tmac at this point and getting hedo for insurance/outright replacment at this point...

i mean at that point ariza only had like 20 games for the lakers if i'm not mistaken, so it was probably too hard to say whether they would end up having to pay him more in the offseason. wasn't lamar saying he would take a paycut to stay? meanwhile bynum when healthy had been giving you like 15/10 with a couple blocks and he was only 20. at the time it was probably a no-brainer.

Tmac is a better player obv, but Artest and Tmac had trouble contributing together this year. I could see Turk fitting in better cause he's a better shooter than Tmac and wouldn't have a problem playing off of Yao/Artest. Even if Tmac troubles this year were solely health related, that's another issue in itself.

sem - yeah it's a confusing conjecture my bad, anyway the way the lakers franchise runs, bynum's gonna end up becoming the 2nd coming of shaq and his contract will look like a bargain

they plan on him returning next season based on what i recall from morey's podcast w/simmons, but even if he were going to sit out next season and delay his return his contract has value b/c it expires next year

FlyWTF,

OK, good points, I'm just still surprised it happens time and again.

The Owl,

Welcome to the forums! You sure know a lot about the NBA, we look forward to you posting next year.

i am (obvi) really liking this for the rockets

tarheel's points are very valid (with the 1 year left on tmac's contract and potentially very similar productivity from him vs. hedo)

but if the rockets view themselves as having a window, that tmac's too banged up, and they have a legit shot next year with a hedo in the mix, they might wanna make a move...

I like The Owl also, unless he's another Lakers fan

The Owl:

Are you another Lakers fan? We could use more of the other teams

fan of the game in general not a laker fan, but i don't have tiem to watch too much reg. ssn so take my opininos with a grain of salt