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05-28-2009 , 04:13 PM
PONIES4MOD

C-Jiggity,

How did your golf prop bet play out and how hungover are you today?
05-28-2009 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Well, with enough exercise and genetics you can overcome crappy diet. It's not like he has Dwight Howard's physique.
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05-28-2009 , 04:54 PM
NBA Draft Combine on ESPN U if you get it
05-28-2009 , 05:03 PM
GREAT SIMMONS ARTICLE. Read it in the car. Passing cleveland now; should I stop by to holler at schwallballs and victor? Nahhhh cleveland sucks

Weather is terrible, it is pouring on and off. Chim, its hard for me to check pms on my phone, but yeah let's get food or so if I will be there. Costanza g is driving with me (he's at the wheel driving now) and we'll know for certain in a few hours.
05-28-2009 , 05:08 PM
suns/lakers game 6 2006 on espn classic
05-28-2009 , 05:22 PM
Eddie House!
05-28-2009 , 05:27 PM
hey bobbo,

don't drive and read you ******. but you knew that.
05-28-2009 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
GREAT SIMMONS ARTICLE. Read it in the car. Passing cleveland now; should I stop by to holler at schwallballs and victor? Nahhhh cleveland sucks

Weather is terrible, it is pouring on and off. Chim, its hard for me to check pms on my phone, but yeah let's get food or so if I will be there. Costanza g is driving with me (he's at the wheel driving now) and we'll know for certain in a few hours.
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
hey bobbo,

don't drive and read you ******. but you knew that.
wat
05-28-2009 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ponies
lol, the first comment:

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Originally Posted by KirkHinrich111
****ing stupid ****!
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Originally Posted by iamawesomer
Actually Lamar is just on a level higher than the rest of us, he actually knows the refs are on his team:

this is awesome. I had never noticed the refs reaction to the ball hitting him before.
05-28-2009 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chim17
wat
i read good. My bad mcbobbo. You're not a ******. You're just special.
05-28-2009 , 05:54 PM
lol I just got a call to be an extra for two days in Jonah Hex with Josh Brolin, Megan Fox, John Malkovich, and Will Arnett. I have to go into wardrobe tomorrow for my cowboy outfit. There is going to be hot bitches all over the place.
05-28-2009 , 06:09 PM
Man, wtf happened to Marion? Did Nash and D'antoni just make him that much better?
05-28-2009 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NozeCandy
lol I just got a call to be an extra for two days in Jonah Hex with Josh Brolin, Megan Fox, John Malkovich, and Will Arnett. I have to go into wardrobe tomorrow for my cowboy outfit. There is going to be hot bitches all over the place.
Megan Fox and Malkovich in the same movie, wtf.
05-28-2009 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher
So I went to play pickup ball today...was shooting around by myself before the game began, moving a little bit as I dribble, but not a ton of impact or intensity, and I hear a fairly distinct "pop" sound. Right below my right calf tensed up a lot. No pain at all, but discomfort. I can't stand on my tippie toes on my right leg without feeling it(still don't feel a ton of pain, but definitely feels like something is out of place). Not sure if this matters or not, but I just started doing pretty heavy deadlifts/squats less than a week ago. I don't have insurance, so I'm gonna have to look into getting some before I go see the doctor. Any thoughts? I'm hoping that I'm just making something out of nothing and overreacting, but I'm definitely a bit scared.

edited: To clarify, its the inner part of my leg right under the calf
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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher
trainer at the gym told me "stay off it and ice"(lol, great insight there I know) so I'm icing it now. I was scheduled to deadlift tomorrow...not sure if I'm going to do that or not. I can't walk down stairs on both legs right now, but walking up stairs is no problem.
Saw first doctor yesterday. He thinks it may be either a calf tear or achilles tendon partial tear. Got x rays, which looked good(nothing wrong). Going to orthapedic(sp?) specialist tomorrow to get MRI done. Really sucks since I don't have insurance and this is a bit pricy. Still made it to the gym yesterday to do some pullups and ab work on the ball(even did some machine curls which I know are usually a waste of time, but I can't really do anything standing these days and I figured its better than nothing).

Kinda bummed out today...wanted to be at WSOP, but I'm limping noticeably and its annoying(didn't feel like paying for crutches). So I started drinking an hour ago...gonna just get really drunk/high today and try to waste the day away...I've been really good with my diet for the last 2-3 weeks, so I deserve one cheat day.
05-28-2009 , 06:27 PM
megan fox pics plz
05-28-2009 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NozeCandy
lol I just got a call to be an extra for two days in Jonah Hex with Josh Brolin, Megan Fox, John Malkovich, and Will Arnett. I have to go into wardrobe tomorrow for my cowboy outfit. There is going to be hot bitches all over the place.
Congrats. I just read a synopsis of the plot and this movie sounds awesome. I mean that seriously.
05-28-2009 , 06:40 PM
Simmons article was a good read, despite a bunch of logical/factual mistakes. My new database tracks ref assignments along with everything else (I don't know who makes each call, but I know the 3 refs assigned to each game), so I'll be able to do some queries to test hypotheses about things, but I have a feeling that this...

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We still don't know why certain referees get assigned to certain games, why Bennett Salvatore always seems to be involved when a home team needs a win to change the momentum of a series, why Joey Crawford keeps getting assigned to Spurs games, why Danny Crawford keeps getting assigned to Mavericks games, why Bill Kennedy would get assigned to a big Celtics game only six weeks after an argument cost Doc Rivers money.
....is somewhere between 'selective memory' and 'flat out fabrication'.

The complaint about the age of officials is not a new one. The problem is, while I'm open to the idea that it is a problem, I haven't seen anyone put forward a better case than, "they're old therefore they can't see and they suck." That may or may not be true, but it's not true just because you keep saying it. Until shown good reason why I should believe otherwise, I'm going to continue with the position that it is really ****ing hard to ref regardless of age, and if there's an issue with older refs in particular, it's probably because they are the ones that have been in the league longer and are higher-profile, leading to giant bouts of selection bias when bitching and moaning.

I really think the problem lies not with the refs (who, as Assani likes to point out, have reached the pinnacle of their profession, regardless of how you feel about them), but with the system in which they have to operate and the expectations the public has. They need help.

I am sympathetic to those who worry that a lot of instant replay will slow the game down unbearably. There are countless examples of a 3-pt shot being reviewed where it is blindingly obvious from one glance if it was a 2 or a 3, and yet the review process still takes like 3 minutes. If that's what instant replay is going to be, then keep it out, but it doesn't have to be.

If I was in charge, the following changes would be made:
- Every crew has a 4th ref, who can communicate with the lead ref, but is not on the court himself. He has a video monitor with a simple, easy-to-use replay system.
- The 4th ref basically double-checks every call in the game, and if a call was so clearly blown that it is obvious to him within a few seconds, he signals to the lead ref to change the call on the court. If it's not blatantly obvious, he lets it go.
- There can also be an additional review process for things like challenges or specific late-game situations that would trigger auto-review, as is done now.

Most disputed calls could be changed by a competent video-ref within the time that it usually takes for a player and ref to jaw at each other. It would be a negligible slowdown in the game, but a significant increase in accuracy. Furthermore, it blunts the whining of the players when they know there's a guy confirming/disconfirming calls on video replay.

Also, flopping should be reviewable and punishable by suspension (whether immediately or with some sort of 'points' system).
05-28-2009 , 06:40 PM
arnett in a non-comedy?

If Poehler's there in support, send her my love.
05-28-2009 , 06:42 PM
cool info kbfc. Just reading it screamed of massive confirmation bias. Look forward to the results.

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I am sympathetic to those who worry that a lot of instant replay will slow the game down unbearably. There are countless examples of a 3-pt shot being reviewed where it is blindingly obvious from one glance if it was a 2 or a 3, and yet the review process still takes like 3 minutes. If that's what instant replay is going to be, then keep it out, but it doesn't have to be.
Joey C and Salvatore are the worst at this. Possibly include Bavetta. Shocker.

The in-booth/video ref is the clear solution. In event of the 3, you wouldn't even need a "ref" review system. There's really no reason for Salvatore to have to go to the booth to look at the monitor. Someone else can do it.
05-28-2009 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher
Saw first doctor yesterday. He thinks it may be either a calf tear or achilles tendon partial tear. Got x rays, which looked good(nothing wrong). Going to orthapedic(sp?) specialist tomorrow to get MRI done. Really sucks since I don't have insurance and this is a bit pricy. Still made it to the gym yesterday to do some pullups and ab work on the ball(even did some machine curls which I know are usually a waste of time, but I can't really do anything standing these days and I figured its better than nothing).

Kinda bummed out today...wanted to be at WSOP, but I'm limping noticeably and its annoying(didn't feel like paying for crutches). So I started drinking an hour ago...gonna just get really drunk/high today and try to waste the day away...I've been really good with my diet for the last 2-3 weeks, so I deserve one cheat day.
Sucks man. It's good you're getting it checked out now, though, especially if you're limping around. I limped around for about a month before getting my knee looked at, and in that time my left leg shriveled up significantly from not putting any weight on it.
05-28-2009 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
GREAT SIMMONS ARTICLE. Read it in the car. Passing cleveland now; should I stop by to holler at schwallballs and victor? Nahhhh cleveland sucks

Weather is terrible, it is pouring on and off. Chim, its hard for me to check pms on my phone, but yeah let's get food or so if I will be there. Costanza g is driving with me (he's at the wheel driving now) and we'll know for certain in a few hours.
dAmn, shoulda stopped. least i could do is buy you dinner with your own money.
05-28-2009 , 07:09 PM
assani - sucks man. About two years ago I messed up my tailbone while I was trying to cut down. I basicaly spent the next two months sitting down. It's sucks to turn the corner like that and succomb to an injury. I feel for ya man.

Bobbo - safe travels and go nuggs! Wish I could be there.

Kfbc - I like your ideas a lot. What did you think of simmons last couple paragraphs, emploring people close to the game to raise he'll about the
officiating?

Cald - Hi! Smd
05-28-2009 , 07:11 PM
Oh and sweet gig nose.
05-28-2009 , 07:13 PM
Ok, I want to apologize to ohio residents. You guys have the best-by far- rest stops. They're unbelievable. I wanted to find any reason to diss the ohio landscape, but thus far no complaints here. Passing toledo!
05-28-2009 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
Ok, I want to apologize to ohio residents. You guys have the best-by far- rest stops. They're unbelievable. I wanted to find any reason to diss the ohio landscape, but thus far no complaints here. Pissing toledo!
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