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02-24-2009 , 09:31 PM

#31901

ThaSaltCracka

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Originally Posted by capone0

Nobody was bragging about Paxson and Cartwright. Maybe Kukoc and BJ.

okay there we go, I couldn't even remember anyone outside of Pippen and Rodman anyway.

02-24-2009 , 09:34 PM

#31902

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dont worry about marbury, the 2nd unit with moore protecting the basket and leon banging is fine but to score hey that's what he does. and he can handle the rock beat the press so we dont have house or t.allen or whatever getting in trouble. as far as attitude, its not good. but he's a backup point guard and none of the world champs give a f as long has he doesnt turn it over and plays hard.

02-24-2009 , 09:34 PM

#31903

mjw0586

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Pistons actually looking like they care out there for a change. The fourth quarter hasn't arrived yet, though. Anyone know of a place that carries numbers by quarters? The Pistons have to be among the worst in the fourth.

02-24-2009 , 09:35 PM

#31904

Bjørn

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Meh Timmy out tonight with a sore knee

02-24-2009 , 09:36 PM

#31905

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Originally Posted by kidcolin

I think the Rondo v. Mo debate is silly. GKA nailed it. Both GMs would hang up laughing. Cs fans overrate Rondo, but that's because when Rondo is playing well, the Cs are damn near unbeatable. But he has consistency and confidence issues and his flaws can be exploited.

I will say this, though. Mo Williams has become pretty overrated. He is, almost literally, the exact same player he was in MIL. He's a good scorer, a decent distributor, and a very weak defender. He gets far too much credit for the Cavs success, whereas the stellar play of AV and Delonte goes relatively unnoticed. Not to mention LBJ emerging as the second coming. The one thing he does deserve credit for (being a PG, allowing LBJ to play off the ball more, balancing the lineup, etc), isn't really a testament to how good he is, it's a testament to the position he plays. I'm not saying he's replacement level, he's not, mainly due to his 3pt shooting. But he's not an AS. I think the Cavs would be curbstomping the league with a pretty wide # of PGs in this league. It's just a luxury they never had before. It's greatly inflated the perception of Mo, iMo.

KC you are 100% ****ing right.

Was Mo an All Star two years ago? What about last year? Then this year with arguably the same numbers is a massive snub until half the east team gets injured, so then he makes it? ****ing christ, get off his nuts. He is not a top level PG, but you know, it doesn't ****ing matter. Cleveland doesn't need a top level PG, they gave Lebron ****ing James, and he creates for all his mediocre team mates.

02-24-2009 , 09:39 PM

#31906

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Actually, I find it hilarious that all the homers are arguing over the best 4 when the question started as best 3. I said the Spurs 3, and it's barely been touched. LBJ is clearly better than any Spur, but comparing Mo and Z to the remaining 2 is so LOL-worthy that it's not even close. As for the Celtics, I'd still go with the Spurs. Duncan > Garnett, Manu > Pierce, and Parker > Allen.

I think all you homers went with "Big 4" because you knew "Big 3" was arguing over 2nd place.

Tim Duncan is still in the NBA, right?

You talking to me? SAS have a better three than the Cavs. As for Duncan, I did say arguably. I don't really feel like arguing which one is better.

02-24-2009 , 09:40 PM

#31907

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Alright, my parents booked me 3 nights at the Planet Hollywood Towers in Vegas in early April. I don't know **** about hotels in Vegas, what are these like?

02-24-2009 , 09:41 PM

#31908

Green Kool Aid

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does anyone think shooting ability can be a negative asset for a big man?

chris webber, zach randolph, and jermaine oneal have at various points put up some pretty horrible shooting years due to their "ability" to hit the elbow jumper.

02-24-2009 , 09:43 PM

#31909

kidcolin

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noze,

they're great for a mommas boy

02-24-2009 , 09:45 PM

#31910

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Cleveland fans, don't worry, I hate Yao more than I hate Mo. Yao is easily one of the boringest players to watch.

02-24-2009 , 09:45 PM

#31911

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Btw, this is a big game for Portland. They need to get a win here.

02-24-2009 , 09:48 PM

#31912

muttiah

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Originally Posted by NozeCandy

Alright, my parents booked me 3 nights at the Planet Hollywood Towers in Vegas in early April. I don't know **** about hotels in Vegas, what are these like?

It's fine. Used to be the Alladin. A little old but w/e it's just a room.

02-24-2009 , 10:00 PM

#31913

ThaSaltCracka

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God Channing Frye, you ****ing suck.

02-24-2009 , 10:07 PM

#31914

TheUntouchable

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Good job by Heat playing with 4 players for about 90 seconds. Somehow they were +2 during the sequence.

02-24-2009 , 10:15 PM

#31915

Ponies

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that was deep

02-24-2009 , 10:21 PM

#31916

tarheeljks

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Green Kool Aid

meh, no more so than a guard who has a decent, but not great stroke yet elects to take tons of long 2's

02-24-2009 , 10:32 PM

#31917

starvs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUntouchable

Good job by Heat playing with 4 players for about 90 seconds. Somehow they were +2 during the sequence.

How does this happen, someone go down with an injury and play just kept on going?

02-24-2009 , 10:34 PM

#31918

PaulieWlnuts

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Originally Posted by tarheeljks

meh, no more so than a guard who has a decent, but not great stroke yet elects to take tons of long 2's

I think a better question is:

Should coaches of big men who think they are better shooters then they really are tell these guys to get on the block and never shoot a mid/long range jumper again?

Josh Smith for example? Dude jacks up 3's all day and is like 25% for his career. If I were a coach I'd tell him never to look to shoot a 3 again. Show him the stats or something for christs sake.

02-24-2009 , 10:34 PM

#31919

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Originally Posted by tbach24

I'm not touching Assani's post because I don't think I could give an answer better than a dart board, but I'll propose this question:

Why did the Celtics give Doc an extension before we got the Big 3?

I wanna see if anyone else wants to take a stab with a theory, I'm going to eat first.

(we lost in intramural, I dropped ~20 after averaging like 5 ppg all season, two gorgeous 3's in garbage time though after not having hit the rim on any of my previous attempts (I need a hand in my face, as GKA and Bobbofitos will tell you).

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbfc

I've been thinking about this a bit lately, and I'm not sure it's true. I think shooting ability might actually be incredibly important for PG, for a number of different reasons.

The main one is something Assani has talked about before; the threat of being able to shoot changes the way defenders have to play you, and that in turn opens up a whole range of other options. Part of what makes Nash so deadly is that you can't sag off him at all, or he just drains it in your face.

Also, there are plenty of championship-winning offensive models that don't rely on a pure assist-guy PG. Tony Parker will never rack up gigantic assist numbers in the Spurs system, but he brings value to them as a scorer, and a big part of his scoring value is his midrange jumpshot off the dribble. Most nights, sagging off TP is a direct ticket to loss-ville. Derek Fisher is a league-avg kinda guy, but he can shoot and space the floor in the triangle, and that is really all you need when you have Kobe drawing double-teams and a bunch of outstanding passing post-players. Chauncey is a more complete player than either TP or Fish, but his main offensive value is that he is a lights-out shooter from range.

I personally don't believe ORL was a title contender before Jameer went down (nor do I believe that they were even favs over the Spurs), but I know a lot of you guys did. Jameer's value was almost entirely as a shooter who could create his own shot. A shooter who was probably running unsustainably hot, but a shooter nonetheless.

Mo fits great with the Cavs because he can shoot, and when you have a teammate who demands double-teams, that's pretty damn useful, regardless of which player has the ball at the time.

Because he's "good with the guys", and they brought Tom T in to actually coach the team?

Bolded paragraph is incredibly true (except I thought there were title contenders. Also, they didn't have Tom T when they gave Doc the extension, it happened before the Big 3.

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

I can't believe I'm saying this, but tbach has come on really strong in the race for "worst poster in this thread". Dude, 95% of your posts are trolling John Hollinger. John Hollinger doesn't post here. John Hollinger does know more about basketball than you do, but he doesn't post here.

If all you want to do is make thousands and thousands of "LOL PER" posts, copy and paste them in emails and send them to ESPN.

Good idea. From hence forth, if I troll stats, tuq/clark/etc I want to be banned for a day or something.

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Originally Posted by Green Kool Aid

Yes and no. If a big man is intelligent and realizes the situations for it to be used, then it can be valuable. But that's only in theory. So many players fall in love with their J and it becomes a detriment to their game, as well as their teams' game. Is it really a good possession for the Suns if Amare were to shoot a 45% jumpshot, or could they possibly work for a better possession?

02-24-2009 , 10:36 PM

#31920

Victor

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wtf they just called 5sec on kobe. didnt even know that rule existed lol.

02-24-2009 , 10:37 PM

#31921

ThaSaltCracka

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jesus, Battier has the Trailblazers on lockdown.

02-24-2009 , 10:38 PM

#31922

kidcolin

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I'm not watching, but he probably deserved a T after it too

02-24-2009 , 10:47 PM

#31923

SirOsis

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LeBron drobs a bomb on Sideshow Bob
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6CWVkPhzRw

02-24-2009 , 10:49 PM

#31924

dukemagic

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i've been impressed with OKC's crowd. they were cheering a lot even when the thunder were down by 10+ and now that the game is getting close they're being really loud.