bastard!

Really wanted Perry Como. It was between Cher, him, and XXX. What the Buble?

there's one blues guy who will probably get taken but maybe not, but he's got one of my top 5 favorite youtubes of all time.

Well **** now there's one blues guy that seems like a great pick but I can't make room for blues on my label... or lol maybe?

there's a bunch of them actually

I'll help cwice out with some of Como's better songs.

Catch a Falling Star

Magic Moments

Killing me Softly

And I Love You So

Papa Loves Mambo

Wind Beneath my Wings - cover

i don't think Perry wrote his own songs but that would have been perfect for a superband with aBBa + Cher. Benny + Bjorn can write all the lyrics like they did and have two great voices helping them sing along. Dude really has a nasty good voice.

Waters and Diddley never really crossed over, at least not until well past their creative primes and only then at the urging of the younger musicians they influenced. Very few true blues musicians ever have. It's quite the anomaly that way; the blues - from its chord patters and structure to its general attitude - had the biggest influence on how American pop music developed in the post-war 20th century but when it stands alone as a pure genre, it's still very niche. It's not mainstream even though it's helped shape the mainstream in a big, big way.

Blues just doesn't seem to be a genre that's widely understood or admired in this draft, and therefore it's just not getting touched almost at all. We've seen drafters dive headfirst into more offbeat hip hop and indie rock acts itt because they're passionate about that music. From what I've read so far, not many drafters, if any, strike me as big blues fans. So it's a genre that's been left alone for the most part and it's been looked over countless times for other picks elsewhere.

I mean, as far as pure blues musicians go, only B.B. King and Stevie Ray Vaughan were taken in the first 10 rounds. So when you said Waters and Diddley slipped because superiors were taken ahead of them, do you mean just King and Vaughan or are you comparing them to all of the acts drafted?

This is a blog entry by the guy who is supposedly the love of Lady Gaga's life. He owns a dive rock bar in NYC. I don't really agree with his viewpoint, but I understand it. I also find it hilarious that he violently hates pop and is dating the world's biggest pop star. The universe giveth and taketh away.


ROCK N ROLL FOUND DEAD IN/ NEW JERSEY APARTMENT AT THE AGE OF 64. BON JOVI AND SOME SUIT IN CUSTODY AS PRIMARY SUSPECTS.

May 04, 2010

What the **** happened? Kids today are totally screwed when it comes to music and pop culture in general. At the risk of sounding like an old man talking about “these kids today,” I’m completely disgusted with the current state of the world and I’m still in my 20’s (barely).

I was born in 1980, which means I grew up with the very last dregs of rock n roll. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Soundgarden. None of which, if you ask me, did anything that hadn’t already been done before (although I do still love to put on Louder than Love by Soundgarden and smoke a joint about once per year, usually around the 4th of July). The world hasn’t seen a real rock star since Scott Weiland from Stone Temple Pilots. He’s a bit of a crybaby bitch, but at least he did drugs and got arrested and didn’t really give a **** what anyone thought.

The only rockstar the world has had to offer in the past 15 years is Jack White. Wow. This guy is a real loser. I remember when I was eighteen and their first album came out, I was really excited about them and couldn’t get enough. Yes, he has written some incredibly catchy songs. He’s made some really good business decisions, and occasionally he even looks somewhat cool. Twelve years later, I can’t stand him. Jesus Christ, what a pussy.

I saw a movie he was in with Jimmy Page and The Edge from U2 (don’t even get me started on how pathetic U2 is). This piece of **** was actually talking to Jimmy Page as if they were on the same level as rock n rollers. I don’t give a **** if you’re Slash, you just do not talk to Jimmy Page like you have any clue what you’re doing. You shut your ****ing mouth and listen to every word that comes out of his mouth as if he’s Jesus and he’s offering you wisdom on the ways of the world.

What else do we have along the lines of rock n roll? Nothing. Kids today, and even people well in to their 30’s think that Coldplay is the epitome of rock n roll, and it’s very sad. It makes me want to shed a tear. Other than Coldplay, I have no idea what is out there in the form of rock n roll because I gave up years ago. I just opened my iTunes to see if there were any rock n roll bands listed in the charts. Surprisingly, the top two groups in the Albums chart were the Deftones and Godsmack, which are considered by most to be rock n roll. Both of these bands, however, have been out there doing this **** for twenty years. I saw both of them in concert in my late teens; I wasn’t impressed then, and I’m sure as **** not impressed now. I’d also be willing to bet that there has been more than one shuffle in the lineup, and the only remaining members are the “lead singers.”

For whatever reason, the world wants you to listen to hip hop. Maybe I’m just a jaded **** that gave up on rock n roll because the business chewed me up and spat me out, but I don’t think I’m the only rock n roller that feels this way. The guys in the suits that make the decisions as to what is popular and what is not, decided to go with music that doesn’t have real drums, or guitars, and is written primarily by old men, and sung by a young, beautiful figure head on Xanex. Real drums, real guitars, and musicians that write their own music lower the suits percentage of profit, so why would they want to put that on their television stations?

I remember when NWA came out with **** The Police and it was a huge **** storm in the media. Every mother and father were handcuffing their child to the radiator to keep them from sneaking off to the record store. I don’t know whether we’ve just gotten past the initial shock of the extreme lyrics in pop music, or what the **** the deal is, but twenty years later, why are parents letting their children listen to pop music when it’s just as bad, if not worse, than Straight Outta Compton? At least NWA had some talent and really wrote some good ****. Parents today should be keeping their children away from pop TV and radio due to lack of talent.

20 years ago people had a choice as to what type of music would be their favorite. Now they have no choice. There is nothing to chose from, you’re just stuck with whats on top of the charts, or something that was written years ago, and you’ve been brainwashed to think that if it wasn’t written yesterday, it isn’t cool. Whatever happened to the days that Punks fought with Metal heads, Metal heads beat the **** out of Mods, Mods made fun of disco, Disco made fun of, well, I don’t think disco fans were allowed to make fun of anyone, but at least they CHOSE to be disco fans. Now, in this wonderful period of time called 2010, there is no choice. There is only one model of music available, and it’s a Honda Accord.

A couple things that pop music and pop culture people need to remember;

*Just because it wasn’t written last month, does not mean it isn’t good.
*Stop worrying about what your friends will think of your ring tone, and listen to what YOU enjoy.
*If it’s on TV, it was contrived by some ******* who listens to Micheal Bolton in his convertible Jaguar. (He’s also probably bald).
*Jon Bon Jovi Killed Roll n Roll by being a giant vagina. The bald, fat man in the suit ****ed that vagina until it turned into a cheap pop music whore.

I stopped reading at the world hasn't had a rock star since Scott Weiland, lololol? I'll continue for amusement purposes.

edit: Ok thinking about it I can't name many rock stars in the past 10 years other than Jack White but Jack White is awesome. All the "rock stars" of this era are rappers, which I suppose is what he dislikes?

that's true, blues-rock is much much more popular (LZ, Stones, Cream, Jeff Beck, Clapton, Hendrix, Aerosmith etc.) but true blues has hardly become mainstream yet - and i doubt it will in the (near) future. Despite having both King and Diddley, I'm not much a fan myself. Blues-rock? No doubt.

lol, that Jimmy Page part was pretty funny.

Bad Romance imo.

well obviously you are basing it on pure blues guys, which wasn't what I was implying. Oh well, its all good man.

The name of the documentary he mentions is "It Might get Loud." I saw it on "on demand" or the sundance channel or something a few months ago--found it interesting but not awesome. (Page, White, and the Edge jamming and talking music).

I think it's a well written rant, but nothing special in that regard. (Though Weiland as a "rock star" is a stretch for me, but I wasn't born in 1980.) What I find awesome is that it was written by this guy:





A bit like being a pro-life advocate married to an abortion doctor.

Heh. Yeah. I lol'd at the Weiland comment and then sent a reply. The weird diss of Jack White aside he's right. Rock might actually be dead in the sense he is talking about although not sure if that's a bad thing. Is it all derivative now because there is less talent or there just isn't much more to explore within those sounds?

I think it's also possible that downloads and such killed the bottom tier bands that can make a going of it for like 2-3 years and 1/100 of which will develop into a great bands. Now record cos. can't just throw piles of **** at the wall and hope some sticks. They have to selectively and precisely aim a much narrower range of ****.

I have a "friend" who is going to see a band with like 5 albums live. Instead of buying one or two of the albums, he found the whole catalog and downloaded it for free in like 15 mins. Selling albums is like making buggy whips in 1920s.

The spike in concert prices is just recouping money that would have been made selling albums in the old days.

Thanks man, I had to take him because of his salezzzzz.

Dude, most bands make absolute dick on record contracts. If anything, the internet has helped small bands get exposure to their music, which in turn builds a fanbase, which in turn brings people willing to pay for product.

The record industry business model is kind of an antiquated dinosaur. Having a means to deliver your music to a wide range of people is unquestionably a good thing for almost every band out there.

unless you're metallica

Except when you make nothing on the product. Yes, the internet has completely solved the distribution problem for small bands. And any chump can record something for $1000. The problem is seeing any roi.

It seems like the last decade has been a total desert for new BANDS, rock, punk, metal, indie, whatever--sure, some bands make it, but it seems like fewer than before, certainly way fewer than the 80s. (As opposed to individual singers and rappers shepherded along by labels.) Is that mistaken?

But it could just be that the youth today doesn't want new bands. There's plenty of new music out there. You think people once wondered where all the big bands and jazz acts went too? Sure. Maybe rock is just dead in some sense. Hip-hop completely took over afaict.

If I were Matallica, I would have done the same thing. The problem is they tried to plug a dike with their finger when they really needed another, larger dam--but the new dam has yet to be designed.

(BTW, I'm an intellectual property attorney--most of my profs and colleagues are of the "info. wants to be free" variety. I lean that way with patents (due to excessive transaction costs mainly, not the principle), but not with copyright. I think artists get screwed, and, because there is less of an incentive to make art, the public gets less quality work to enjoy. And I am not talking AC fairly tales either--my views lean more to socialism than ACism.)

The thing with drugs and music is, sure, you can give some away for free to get people hooked, but eventually you have to charge or you'll go broke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL9-esIM2CY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%26M_R...._Napster,_Inc.

[Though, to the extent this topic doesn't shed light on the current state of music quality in relation to historical precedent, it's probably more appropriate for a dedicated thread in another forum.]

i think aggressive, heavy music is at its best state ever, just about.