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08-03-2010 , 02:59 AM
yeah i think that SR lives in Minnesota or somethin', so he probably won't be back tonight...

wanna PM meb's pick anyway, in case you're gonna take off? i might be here for a bit... (plus i pick soon and could use the info to prepare)
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08-03-2010 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
It's undeniable that Elvis was the largest pop culture figure in uhh the history of the world I suppose but he was also in the right place at the right time. Like say Michael Jackson comes out at the same time as Elvis (in that culture), America just wouldn't be ready for it. He paved the way.
"Right place, right time" just seems like an absurd thing to say. He's the biggest selling solo artist of all time. He influenced basically everyone and everything after him. He obviously was in a good situation to succeed, but saying he was "just" this or "right place" that doesn't work when you're as utterly massive as he was and is.

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GOAT rapper imo, nice pick. The best of the best, but there is a close second.
Not GOAT rapper imo, but obviously not bad if you're going that way. Relative to what else is out there though, it's meh.

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I'd like the Elvis pick more except for the fact that he never wrote a song his entire career. Not sure if that was touched upon earlier itt.
But he was so big writers were willing to give up writing credits to him just to reap the rewards that would follow.

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Elton John wasn't on my radar at all, but I think it is a very good pick.
I'm really curious how Elton John would have evaded someone's radar in the first round.
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08-03-2010 , 03:10 AM
bleh, man I have to be honest about both Lennon and McCartney. I feel like its hard to really rate them as individual artists because to me the Beatles were such a great band and each member (well sans one, lets be honest) fueled the others song writing and their collective harmony was what made them great. Both McCartney and Lennon did some decent solo stuff, but part of me feels like it was sort of a continuation of their time with the Beatles. Lennon's seminal solo song came just a year after the band broke up. IMO, most of the stuff McCartney did was meh. None of them really have stand out voices either. But its hard to deny that they made some masterful music when they were together. I feel like both need some good songwriters to work with to really get the best out of them.
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08-03-2010 , 03:10 AM
do you get real paul mccartney or the fake one that replaced paul when he died?

also, props to anyone who can link me to a good post-Beatles McCartney song that isn't live or let die, maybe i'm amazed, and the first half of band on the run before it turns into a really hokey ****show.
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08-03-2010 , 03:11 AM
btw, how important is it to have a 'theme' for your studio? Will I get awesome points deducted if I had a bit of rapping/blues/rock/country or is it simply 'frowned' upon? Or just doesn't matter?

I can't get enough of Bob Dylan. the watchmen intro with The Times They Are A-Changin' is so awesome.
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08-03-2010 , 03:12 AM
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I'm really curious how Elton John would have evaded someone's gaydar in the first round.
sophomoric fyp
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08-03-2010 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by NozeCandy
"Right place, right time" just seems like an absurd thing to say. He's the biggest selling solo artist of all time. He influenced basically everyone and everything after him. He obviously was in a good situation to succeed, but saying he was "just" this or "right place" that doesn't work when you're as utterly massive as he was and is.



Not GOAT rapper imo, but obviously not bad if you're going that way. Relative to what else is out there though, it's meh.

First, in retrospect, Elvis is a round one pick. For one thing, he had a good singing voice, especially before he turned to "I like deep fried pb and banana sandwich and pain killers" Elvis. He brings a ton of musical versatility, plus charm, swagger, and stage presence. You just kind of get the feeling he would be a star. But I think a great producer and song writers is necessary imo.

Second, in this format, Jay-Z is my clear GOAT, even though he's not my favorite rapper.

Last edited by ThaSaltCracka; 08-03-2010 at 03:19 AM.
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08-03-2010 , 03:14 AM
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btw, how important is it to have a 'theme' for your studio? Will I get awesome points deducted if I had a bit of rapping/blues/rock/country or is it simply 'frowned' upon? Or just doesn't matter?
i think that you might get docked by some if the pieces are random and totally don't fit at all. unless you can make a good argument why they would work well together or something. i mean a big part of this is that people on your label are going to have to collaborate with the others, so...?
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08-03-2010 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by NozeCandy
"Right place, right time" just seems like an absurd thing to say. He's the biggest selling solo artist of all time. He influenced basically everyone and everything after him. He obviously was in a good situation to succeed, but saying he was "just" this or "right place" that doesn't work when you're as utterly massive as he was and is. .
Hey I called him the biggest pop icon in the history of the world! I don't have any candidates for who could have been as big as Elvis given that place in time and his actual legacy is staggering. Not in any disagreement on that front. Didn't mean to say "right place, right time" derisively, only that given the particular circumstances of time and his talent it allowed him to be a bigger superstar than I think he would be in this draft... although I also believe a case can be made for #1.
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08-03-2010 , 03:17 AM
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btw, how important is it to have a 'theme' for your studio? Will I get awesome points deducted if I had a bit of rapping/blues/rock/country or is it simply 'frowned' upon? Or just doesn't matter?

I can't get enough of Bob Dylan. the watchmen intro with The Times They Are A-Changin' is so awesome.
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i think that you might get docked by some if the pieces are random and totally don't fit at all. unless you can make a good argument why they would work well together or something. i mean a big part of this is that people on your label are going to have to collaborate with the others, so...?
yeah i think it could work, but it would be much harder to draft in order to make it work, but if you can you will have a pretty awesome studio imo.
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08-03-2010 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
do you get real paul mccartney or the fake one that replaced paul when he died?
lol, the person who started that rumor taught AV class at my high school. my brother had a bunch of classes with him. he's super rich i think not sure why he teaches high school. weird dude though.
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08-03-2010 , 03:25 AM
I am here. Is Nath still around?
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08-03-2010 , 03:30 AM
Yep. I PMed you MEb's pick so you can get to work.

Any sign of Jamee999 lately?
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08-03-2010 , 03:31 AM
Alright, working on my write-up now. Have literally no idea how this pick will go over which is pretty nerve-wracking.... I take these things too seriously imo.
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08-03-2010 , 03:32 AM
Don't sweat it too much. It's kinda hard to fail here unless you go with someone who's flagrantly untalented / unsuccessful.
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08-03-2010 , 03:38 AM
sooo..... are you posting his pick or are we waiting for Meb to include the write up. If so, can you save the pick for him and let SR post his pick? Sorry if thats annoying, but I've enjoyed talking about the picks thus far. Wouldn't mind seeing another tonight.
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08-03-2010 , 03:43 AM


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Kurt Cobain

Depending on who you talk to, Kurt Cobain is a savior of rock music or the guy who ruined it forever. He's either a musical genius or a dumb emo kid who got lucky and was at the right place at the right time. What can't be denied is that Cobain changed the face of music forever, and spoke for a generation -- even if he didn't really want to.

In 1991, Cobain's band Nirvana released Nevermind, which is considered possibly the most important record in the alternative rock movement and of the 90s in general. On the back of their hit single "Smells Like Teen Spirit", Nirvana became massively popular and Cobain was suddenly thrust in the limelight. On the heels of their popularity, Cobain made an intentionally challenging, different record with In Utero, but despite his best efforts that album was also a smash hit.

Cobain killed himself at just age 27, which obviously limits his output and makes him a risky pick. However, despite the lack of output, Nirvana is still one of the highest selling artists of all time with over 50 million albums sold worldwide. Additionally (not to get too morbid here), his death could almost be argued as a good thing for the label since it adds to his legend.

Another reason I like Cobain here is that I feel he'll be a great collaborator for my studio. By all counts he was a legitimate music lover, and I think he'd love the opportunity to collaborate with many of the artists in this draft. While he won't be as prolific as the artists taken, just like in the real world I think he will leave a massive impact.
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08-03-2010 , 03:44 AM
I go with dumb emo kid who got lucky.
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08-03-2010 , 03:45 AM
Prone to suicide imo
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08-03-2010 , 03:48 AM
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I go with dumb emo kid who got lucky.
I couldn't disagree more. I am a huge huge fan and I think he may in fact be the biggest musical genius of the past 30 years. His genius lies in the simplicity of his songwriting; he was able to cut to the heart of the human condition with soft/loud/soft verse/chorus/verse in a way that still just blows my mind.

Oddly enough, this is the first guy who popped into my head when SR said he wasn't sure how this pick would be received.
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08-03-2010 , 03:48 AM
hmmm....it would be interesting what kind of songs he'd have if he was paired up with a good lyricist, since he always placed more emphasis on the melodies of this songs instead of the lyrics, which is why Nirvana's songs were always so catchy. I have to say though, his band mates were super important to the bands overall success. For a band that relied so much on melody, this hurts his value quite a bit imo.
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08-03-2010 , 03:49 AM
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Prone to suicide imo
Definitely, especially if he achieves comparable levels of fame as he did in real life.
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08-03-2010 , 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaSaltCracka
bleh, man I have to be honest about both Lennon and McCartney. I feel like its hard to really rate them as individual artists because to me the Beatles were such a great band and each member (well sans one, lets be honest) fueled the others song writing and their collective harmony was what made them great. Both McCartney and Lennon did some decent solo stuff, but part of me feels like it was sort of a continuation of their time with the Beatles. Lennon's seminal solo song came just a year after the band broke up. IMO, most of the stuff McCartney did was meh. None of them really have stand out voices either. But its hard to deny that they made some masterful music when they were together. I feel like both need some good songwriters to work with to really get the best out of them.
McCartney has 7 #1 singles that after the Beatles broke up including the biggest selling non-charity single in UK history. McCartney is the only artist to reach the UK number one as a soloist , duo , trio , quartet (The Beatles), quintet, and as part of a musical ensemble for charity.
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08-03-2010 , 03:49 AM
solid pick, i don't know if i would have pulled the trigger, but i certainly would have considered it...

- def a massive music nerd though, so likely a good collaborator
- had a knack for writing brilliant, yet simple riffs. the "omg 3-chord grunge" stuff is hilarious because haters just wish they could write stuff like that. writing pop songs is hard, otherwise lots of people would do it, ya dig?

longevity is an issues, but w/e. epic talent for this generation.
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08-03-2010 , 03:50 AM
Yeah I'm expecting him to suicide again. I still think he's worth it here though, and he's the only guy on the board I really wanted.

I can cash in on all the posthumous releases obv.
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