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08-13-2010 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by private joker
Why does Needle need Mary J Blige if he already has Whitney Houston? How many R&B divas can you fit in one label? Also, she doesn't perform in Vegas so label fit is poor.
I'm still confused as to the concept of "label fit" for this draft. Seems to have minimal value to me.
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08-13-2010 , 12:41 AM
Label fit is ultra important to me as you can tell
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08-13-2010 , 12:43 AM
Fit matters in terms of building an actual band or pairing a producer with a certain artist. Outside of that, it doesn't really matter all that much what kind of artists you have. It is nice to have a bunch of artists that can work well together though as collaborations are usually awesome.
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08-13-2010 , 12:50 AM
Label fit is not as important in this draft as studio/network fit was in the movie and TV drafts, but I think it is somewhat important in regards to sales.

The way the music industry works is that label-mates support each other, which is even more important now that so much of their income comes from touring (as opposed to when people bought CDs). A label like, say, Matador, will hold a giant concert in Vegas with 15 of their best indie rock bands playing, and if you go see one you'll likely see another that you haven't heard of.

Not saying that labels in this draft need to have the same genre -- big labels like Sony and Capitol obviously branch out between rock, pop, R&B, and country, but generally each label forms a kind of personality that benefits not only the entire company but each band as they often support each other. Dyenimator's label, for example, can hold a veritable Coachella of Rap and make a gajillion dollars every summer.

Critics often gravitate towards certain labels. A place like Barsuk, Merge, or 4AD will have its vocal fans and vocal detractors (on something like Pitchfork). And often times if there are wildly divergent tastes or types of music on a given label, its lack of identity will sour it in the minds of purists or niche fans.

So it's not super important, but it is *one* factor (and a minor one, compared to the quality and influence of the individual artists) I think is worth considering when taking this entire draft into account.
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08-13-2010 , 01:00 AM
It's also just much more fun and interesting to try to put together a semi-cohesive label that features collaborations you think would be awesome.
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08-13-2010 , 01:15 AM
The no bands rule is really destroying some value. A few people in particular but they probably should have gone now anyways.
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08-13-2010 , 01:20 AM
I don't think I can name more than 2ish record labels outside of the major ones. Don't pay attention to that at all and don't follow the industry much. The first time I heard "Barsuk, Merge, or 4AD" was PJ's post. Looking them up on wiki I recognize a solid amount of the bands signed to them though.
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08-13-2010 , 01:20 AM
Yeah, one band in particular is really tilting me in that regard.

On the other hand, I think drafting individuals has made things way more interesting overall and created more interesting labels.
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08-13-2010 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
The no bands rule is really destroying some value. A few people in particular but they probably should have gone now anyways.
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08-13-2010 , 01:21 AM
Supergroups ftw.
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08-13-2010 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SarcasticRat
Yeah, one band in particular is really tilting me in that regard.

On the other hand, I think drafting individuals has made things way more interesting overall and created more interesting labels.
Maybe. Think I would have preferred bands but this is fun too. Not sure which band you mean. Probably not the same one as me.
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08-13-2010 , 01:34 AM
I can think of one band who hasn't had any members drafted that probably would have gone already as a unit. (I mean, there are probably more, but I have one specific band in mind.)

But I agree with SarcasticRat-- going with individuals has achieved the desired goal of making this more interesting on the whole, imo.
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08-13-2010 , 01:41 AM
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But I agree with SarcasticRat-- going with individuals has achieved the desired goal of making this more interesting on the whole, imo.
i would have joined if i would have known this :-/
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08-13-2010 , 01:42 AM
Also, Clark / tUt / PJ seem to understand label fit pretty well. Cohesion isn't nearly as vital as sheer talent, but it's a nice little thing to have if you want your label to have an identity. All the labels PJ mentioned are pretty indie though and given the sheer amount of talent in this draft all of us should be aiming higher than to specialize like that.
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08-13-2010 , 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nath
I can think of one band who hasn't had any members drafted that probably would have gone already as a unit. (I mean, there are probably more, but I have one specific band in mind.)
The one I'm thinking of would be a top 15 pick imo
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08-13-2010 , 02:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD2BwwGE9uo

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With the 149th overall pick, LeFlyingRat and I pick Paul Rodgers. Rodgers has served as the lead singer in Free, Bad Company, The Firm, The Law and recently toured and recorded with Queen. While with Bad Company, Rodgers served as the band's primary composer, either writing or co-writing most of the band's tracks. Plus, his voice is amazing and will be forever.

Here are some great songs written & sung by Rodgers:

Feel Like Makin' Love

Rock Steady

Bad Company

Silver, Blue & Gold

Burnin' Sky

Rock N' Roll Fantasy

Movin' On (Not written by Paul but awesome anyway)

Studio so far:
Elton John
Billy Joel
Celine Dion
Barry Gibb
Charles Aznavour
Buddy Holly
The Streisand
Paul Rodgers
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08-13-2010 , 02:13 AM
You are crushing the adult contemporary market.
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08-13-2010 , 02:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlejfA5NCbQ

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Is this the band you ladies are talking about? No? It should be...

Round 8 : Pick 150 : Angus Young (AC/DC)



Mr. Young here is the co-founder, lead guitarist, co-writer, and performance extraordinaire of the great AC/DC. His wikipedia really doesn't do him any justice but just some quickie facts about his band. Yes, he's better than undrafted band members. The dead one too.

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As of 2008, AC/DC have sold more than 200 million albums worldwide, including 71 million albums in the United States. Back in Black has sold an estimated 49 million units worldwide, making it the highest-selling album by any band and the 2nd highest-selling album in history, behind Thriller by Michael Jackson. The album has sold 22 million in the US alone, where it is the fifth-highest-selling album. AC/DC ranked fourth on VH1's list of the "100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock" and was named the seventh "Greatest Heavy Metal Band of All Time" by MTV. In 2004, the band was ranked number 72 in the Rolling Stone list of the "100 Greatest Artists of All Time"
Just bold the whole thing why don't you!

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AC/DC were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on March 10, 2003
The cool thing about all this is that he's ranked in the top-100 of numerous 'GOAT guitarist list' including HotGuitarist, BestGuitaristofAllTime (#8), Rolling Stones, Gigwise, etc. but he's also an extremely talented song-writer and performer. His energy is off-the-charts (DUCK WALK!!!) and may I also remind you that Mr. Slash was drafted over 50 picks ago?

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ANGUS YOUNG - Most rock fans would agree that AC/DC guitarist Angus Young is one of the genre's most energetic and entertaining performers. It's impossible to imagine an AC/DC show without Young bobbing his head up and down in time to the music, playing amped up Chuck Berry licks on his Gibson SG guitar, shirtless and drenched in sweat. And in addition to his manic stage persona, he's one of the best (and underrated) rock guitarists of all time.

Mick Jagger + Angus Young = Supergroup?

Epic Solo
Epic Solo #2 - look at him own the crowd
Hell's Bells
Back In Black
Highway to Hell
You Shook Me All Night Long
TNT

Studio:
Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin)
Robert Plant (Led Zeppelin)
Benny Andersson (ABBA)
Mick Jagger (Rolling Stones)
Tina Turner (solo)
B.B. King (solo)
Steve Perry (Journey)
Angus Young (AC/DC)


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08-13-2010 , 02:18 AM
Good fit. I don't get the appeal of AC/DC though.

OMFG the stage in that video is huge
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08-13-2010 , 02:50 AM
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dude you are ****ing awful.
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That's an absurd statement, and it takes a very narrow measure of success to say that.
The fact that you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't true.
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08-13-2010 , 02:56 AM
anyone wanna trade up to pick #160?

(we're at #151 right now)
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08-13-2010 , 03:00 AM
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The fact that you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't true.
Okay, and the fact that you pronounce these statements as fact without supporting them and label anyone who disagrees a "hater" doesn't make them true, either.
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08-13-2010 , 03:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRopmfinsWk

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Y'all give it up for Ray Davies, the driving force (singer, songwriter, rhythm guitarist) behind The Kinks. He kept them together for over thirty years, launched their first wave of popularity behind those dirty, simple, rockin' singles such as "You Really Got Me" and "All Day and All of the Night", then sustained a period of critical success behind his matured sensibility and poppier tunes infused with social commentary ("Sunny Afternoon" and "Waterloo Sunset", for example). They put out several classic albums at the end of the sixties, and Davies' tireless work ethic was the major reason they kept recording and touring at such volume.

A strong songwriter and rocker to add to our label here, Davies continues to work today. Also, we've locked up every version of "You Really Got Me" ever. Man, wonder what kind of treatment Eddie could give to the rest of Ray's songs.

WHO WE GOT
Bob Dylan
Neil Young
Bono
Brian Eno
George Harrison
Eddie Van Halen
Ray Davies
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08-13-2010 , 03:06 AM
20 years from now it's close to a lock that MEbenhoe has the least listened to studio unless he just happened to chance upon every act from today that will stand the test of time. Massive failure at doing the primary objective of the draft imo.
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08-13-2010 , 03:06 AM
Davies is a really strong pick here obv.

Do you have Jamee's pick? I can PM you mine if you want to post it and get to bed. I have a spewy looking pick coming up that requires an in depth write-up imo.

EDIT: Oh, and you pick again right after him. Seems good.
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