At first I didn't care about the reverse snake or snake, but I def think it's the fair thing to do reverse snake for all the reasons said, and for the fact we added so many new teams the talent is even worse for those picking at the end of the first round.

Obv the top people aren't going to want reverse snake, and the bottom people will, but people should vote on whats best for this league and that's making it as fair as possible which clearly is reverse snake. I doubt this will happen tho, since people will look out for themselves first.

Clark/Tuq, can we make a thread for this? Just have all the 41 people involved vote via a response (no poll or anything), then lock/delete the thread with an answer.

One note about Iverson is he's a physical robot. Plays more minutes then anyone. Doesn't miss games. Gets fouled more then nearly anyone. This is a huge positive.

IMO a robot that went under that much would probably be malfunctioning by this point. AFAIK Iverson is a borg.

I'm going to repeat this one more time and then lets end this discussion:

While I definitely do have my preferences, I am very open to adjusting the rules based upon everyone's wishes. However I refuse to put the time and effort into going over things multiple times just because others couldn't check the thread at least once per day to see if any issues arose. Therefore, if you want a rule changed that has not yet been discussed then simply bring it to my attention, I will listen to both sides, and I will make a ruling(often based upon majority rule, sometimes based upon my own wishes). If you want to change anything that has already been discussed and decided on, then you need to do the work and take a vote from everyone. I will always let the majority's vote have its way. In the case of a tie then my vote will be the deciding one.

i guess, but it's no coincidence that the people who responded were the people who were picking at the time-- they were the posters most likely to be active in the thread. it stands to reason that the closer you are to picking the more closely you follow the thread, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if a poster who was picking late wasn't following every single post made early in the draft.

it should have been put to a vote prior to the randing b/c those at the top of the draft order have no reason to want a reverse snake, while those at the bottom obviously do.


edit: assani, this thread has a zillion posts already. someone could have missed the discussion about the draft format pretty easily

If you have such a problem with the way this draft's being run you should just start your own.

not this again

so far there are 6 snake supporters (Steroid Boy, BobboFitos, Assani Fisher, SHARK DOCTOR, HighStakesPro, fanmail) and 7 reverse-snake supporters (EPiPen11, cowboy2579, Dudd, SammyKid11, tbach24, sergsz, KLJ), not counting tarheeljks and ClarkNasty who are in support of reverse-snake, but not in the draft. not really a significant sample either way.

would whoever mods this forum care if we make a post to take votes from everyone?

lol

wait....Noah and ClarkNasty are the same person? What does that make Clarkmeister?

lol oops, too many clarks

it's no coincidence that the pro crowd members all have very high picks. if this had been done b/f the draft lottery i'm pretty sure there would have been an overwhelming desire to have a reverse snake draft format

I'm not in this thing, but not having a reverse snake draft is pretty lol.

If the point of this draft was for the teams to seem even remotely competitive, you have to switch it, imo.

this was the snake discussion in the beginning fyi

conveniently leaving out the anti-members ftw?

and i think it's at least somewhat significant that the only 3 non-member votes have been pro-reverse

steroid you, bobbo, and assani have very high picks (1,2, 6 respectively) -- of course you don't want a reverse snake draft. sharkdoctor has the 11th pick and hsp has the 13th pick, so same for them. the argument for "simplicity" is so weak; he would not be saying that if he had the last pick. sure after round 2 it will be fine. . .the first two rounds are going to be what breaks the draft in terms of balance

i don't think that many responded and i think it's b/c they were people picking later who probably weren't particularly active in the thread. most of the people assenting to a regular snake are people at the top, no coincidence there. if this is really designed to be fair and balanced there's no reason not to have a reverse snake draft

Also if you get confused by a reverse snake draft, you are really freakin dumb.....seriously.

lol @ any argument regarding "simplicity".

Are people going to get CONFUSED?

Again, stop debating! Debating will change nothing. If you want it changed, get a vote done.

I would put the odds over 50% that someone picks at the wrong time(or at least is about to) if we switch to reverse snake.

I picked 8th, reverse snake is a-okay with me.

I have a high pick (#9), and when they said this would be a regular snake draft I felt like I'd lucked out...

I think the reverse snake is the most fair way to go. The arguments against are pretty bad imo, with the exception of what had been agreed upon.

I dunno man a reverse snake is really complicated, you need to be a genius to figure it out....

But seriously, anyone with a middle school education would have an easy time understanding the reverse snake draft.

A lot of peope think a reverse snake draft would be easy. But those are the same people who think that making toast is easy.