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Average for all champs: 5.36th in offensive rating, 4.96th in defensive rating
This is not very convincing, as offense and defense seems to have very similar value according to this numbers.
Anyway, I've never said that defense was useless, simply that it was overrated because it is not more important than offense. A good defense allows you to compete, but then you need good offense to get over the hump. Therefore I don't get why there is so much emphasis on defense.
My team is definitely not one of the best defensively, but since my defense is still good, I feel that I give up very little to the top defensive teams.
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I don't understand what you mean by "stop." Lets say you take a player like Kobe Bryant. Normally lets say he scores 27 points on 55% TS(numbers totally off the top of my head). Now lets say you match him up with the Spurs with Bruce Bowen on him and Tim Duncan waiting for him in the paint. Is it not fair to assume that he may only get 22 points on 52% TS now?
You're right about that, but the Bryant Bowen example is not fair, because Bowen really has a psychological edge on Kobe, but that's another subject.
Anyway, my thinking was more that a great offensive threat will often take advantage of his defender if there is no defensive help. And if you have a couple of players than can create those kind of mismatches on the fllor at the same time, any defense will be in trouble.
But you maybe such an offensive team is as difficult to built as a dominant defensive team, (though a team like ALex's is a good example)
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You say that I'm foolish to think that I'm going to really stop the top offensive teams, but I think you're foolish if you think anyone is going to run all over the top defensive teams.
Actually I was not thinking about any team in particular, it was more a reaction to the way teams were being judged.
I certaninly did not have your tema in my mind. Hardaway has his problems, but Hardaway and Duncan is a terrific offensive duo
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A team like the recent Suns is as strong offensively as any in the draft. Hell they had players drafted at #22, #27, #32, #173, and #210 in this draft!
Some of the Suns' players have got to be overrated but I m not sure who...
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Your logic makes no sense. The Spurs in the NBA held many teams to 90 points, but against the elite offensive teams like the Suns they give up over 100. Yet you use 90 points against perhaps the best offensive team in our league(Alex's) as a benchmark? Thats totally unfair.
The 90 points were not a meaningful number in my mind, but just a way of saying that defense won't probably be as efficient as good offense against elite teams.
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First off Bowen does give you something on offense in that he can hit the open 3, he spaces the floor well, he rarely takes bad shots that hurt the team, and hes an efficient passer when swinging the ball around the key.
Secondly, Bowen went in the 6th round. Compare that to the all offense/ no defense guys who have been going since the first(Amare/Nash) continuing on to the 2nd round(Arenas, Gasol, Allen, Price) and all the way throughout the whole thing.
How is it "overrated" to go in the 6th round!!!???
Even still I think you're wrong and Bowen was a steal there. You seem to be confusing completely shutting down an offense with severely limiting it. Each shot that Bowen's man misses that he wouldn't have missed against a weaker defender is just as good as scoring on the other end. Hell its even more valuable if your team already has plenty of scoring options.
First off, Bowen is terrible on offense. His three point shooting is the only reason, POP can afford to have him on the floor, and considering that he the best wing defender of the last ten year that's really saying something.
It does not really space the floor as teams let him stand alone on the corner and don't bother guarding him.
I don't think he was a bad pick at all ( Dereck Fisher was next!), but I would not call him one of the steal of the draft. He's terrible on offense and that's someting to consider. There's a reason why the SPurs often have had trouble scoring in the past.