I also hate the Stackhouse pick, and especially the fit. You actually had me intriguied about your team after taking Bosh and Baron, but you really had to round it with good role players, not more inefficient would-be #1 options.

Well he left like 4-5 days ago and it wasn't really close to his pick then. But I'm gonna try and get in contact with him.

To all the N2 people, incase u didn't notice Danny Granger is avaliable for trade from my team, so get him while hes hot and before someone else trades for him ldo.

Yeah but BigCat's team is now a lot like the Warriors and that team is awesome to watch

Buddy, no way you're that annoyed. I have 10 posts tops on this subject. Also, b/c you are obviously not reading my post seriously you are giving a false response to it. You have not provided one specific example of who would be hurt and how.

Also respond to these problems:

1. Having no veteran leadership/all players being the same age (this is idiotic)

2. Having to spot young players entire careers.

3. How will we deal with the Penny's and G-Hill's later in the simulation?

As someone said, you can't change the rules now. The rules were set and there are reasons why people drafted certain people. Honestly if we were allowed to pick 3 year spans for certain players than the way the draft went would be very different. I wouldn't have drafted Dwight 17th since he hasn't had a 3 year span to the likes of some of the guys picked after him. If you want to start another thread then let's do it but you can't make a huge drastic change of the rules.

Also the meshing of teams is beyond the scope of this draft. Honestly it's going to be very hard to gage. Also maturity at certain ages is very ahrd to grasp as well. Who is going to be the judge of these things?

1. There are a decent amount of young guys who at 24 were leaders, Chris Paul (not even 24 yet), Deron Williams, KG, Duncan, Jordan, Bird, Shaq, DRob etc. It will also even out that everyone is 24 so leadership will probably come more from the coaching staff anyway.

2. That's the point of building a franchise, it will be for both the short term and long term

3. This is the hardest one, personally from all the things said, Penny was destined to have problems in a few years, and Grant Hill's injury was more of a freak accident (but he still was more injury prone than the normal person).

/end argument

Where does b-ref explain wtf the advanced stats mean? (I'm a newb)

Stackhouse appears to suck major balls on those metrics.

Who cares?

We do best guess. If we did your method, how would Durant et al project? We take these players because they've valuable. They have a long shelf life (probably) and some of these guys look to be good soon (Durant could be good next year, or maybe in 2-3 years).

They'll probably get hurt and their team will suck. That's why people passed on them. You're rewarding the people who took chances on these guys (but not on other, healthy young players) by limiting it to only 3 years and only the best 3 years. Also, you really limit guys like Mark Jackson who had good long careers but no big peak.

Check "Glossary" - http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/glossary.html

Most of them are kind of self explanatory. If you have any more q's ask here on in the "Ask me about basketball stats" thread.

OK, understood.

/argument

All,

Prob won't get to pick til early tonight, just FYI.

JoA,

Weak, I had one thing I argued on about and actually tried to have it discussed outside this thread by creating a new thread, but others kept talking about it in here instead. Nowhere near some others who have been fighting about the same stupid crap constantly since beginning of thread.

VanExel,

Glad to see you dropped that argument because it was getting borderline ridiculous. We all realize there may have been more ideal ways to do this, but this far into the draft we can almost all agree that it would be extremely unfair to change a rule that is that much of a factor on all of this.

Stackhouse sucks imo.

You realize its ur pick right now right meb?

won't really matter since GKA is MIA

Stackhouse is so awful. Wow.

When I picked Natt--which is one of the hottest picks of this draft btw--I had a few others that would have been very nice picks as well and Stack wasn't even on my radar.

Yes, and while I have it narrowed down, I want to do some more research before officially making my pick, and I won't be able to do that at work, so I was just giving everyone fair warning. I'll still be getting it in early tonight though.

Standard. Replacement owner like in N2 ftw!

I'll take over and be sure not to pick anyone I want to fall to me!

He and I had thrown a couple players around so I have a vague idea of who he wants if I can't come into contact with him. Bobbo might have an even better idea of who he wanted.

where's the DoB at?

Stackhouse is pretty bad

Stackhouse should've been picked as a sixth man for BigCat's team or someone's fast explosive offense... I don't know, I just like hyper inefficient guys who draw fouls off coming off the bench in this format. As part of the primary squad, bad. Team needed a guy with range.

Someone had PM'd me about Stackhouse a few picks ago and my response was: probably about 30 picks too early.

I am interested in hearing some feedback about my intention to play Gay at the 2? Can it work? He seems to have fairly similar body/skillset to Durant, so I figured it was an option....