You guys should both give it a rest imo.

Sorry, butthurt in Boston has me on monkeytilt a bit.

That's cool and all that you don't care but that's what we're currently talking about and it was insanely obvious to anyone that can understand English words on a page that when I said "it was clearly the wrong call" I was basing that on what the VP said.

And your response was "nope" then you're defense of that "nope" was solely about uncatchable. You see where you went wrong? Hint: if you know how to read, you will!!!!

Good luck!!!

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So you didn't read the article then. That's what I said a few posts ago. That's cool. Your opinion on anything in the article is obviously irrelevant then. I can explain why if you'd like. Do you need me to explain the simple logic of that to you, son?

Riverboat Ron has brought us the great rustling of our time.

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I think letsgamble has finally lost it. Funny, always thought tradeoc would make him snap. Who knew it would come from one of his own. Have a good night gamble, sleep it off. Tomorrow is another day, my friend!!!

"A Football Life" needs to not be a weekly program.

Pats fan here.

Pass interference would have been nice, but it wouldn't have been the correct call.

I thought defensive holding would have been the correct call, but it only gives us one more play on the 13. Probably Panthers win anyway.

If this was a playoff game, I'd be more butt hurt, but this probably won't mean anything as far as the season goes. If they'd have started playing before the fourth quarter, this would all be moot.

I dont think the chances of Gronk spontaneously turning into the Cadburry Bunny are "literally 0 percent" so I think your standard is about as useless as it can be.

DPI overruled because the ball was uncatchable doesnt happen that often. But when it does, 100% of the time it happens just like it did in this game. Guy throws flag because he sees a ton of contact, then either himself or some other official thinks about it, had a better angle, etc., and picks it up because ball was uncatachable. This idea of Perreiras is pretty much your typical lol Perreira

Man this argument between Goodie/LetsGambool is full ******, you should both give yourselves an internet timeout imo.

The referee who actually reffed the game gave the correct explanation of why the flag was picked up. Blandino is just plain wrong.

That said, Gambool's just replying with BUT THE HEADLINE SAYS "NFL VP of Officiating: Refs weren't wrong with Panther-Patriots no-call" is equally spaz. Goodie is linking the article because Blandino was factually incorrect. If Blandino's explanation of the no-call was the right one, that would support Goodie's argument regardless of what the headline said. But it's the wrong explanation, so it's irrelevant.

Having watched the gif a billion times the salient points are:

- The hands on shoulders contact doesn't amount to restriction imo. You can see not much force is being exerted on Gronk.

- By the time the contact switches to the bearhug, the arms of 38 are being extended towards the ball for the pick. It's way too late then for the pass to be catchable.

- Even if there hadn't been a defender on Gronk, when the gif starts you see his left foot come down and then his right. That right foot down is the first opportunity for Gronk to change direction. At this point #38 is closer to the ball than him and already in pretty fast motion towards it. If you think a big dude like Gronk can change direction and move back towards the ball in time to beat 38 to it, idk what to tell you. With no defender, he wouldn't even have time to pull up and start moving forward before 38 completes the catch.

The fact is Brady made a bad throw and that's why the Pats lost. All this "they normally call those", etc etc is just appealing for a bad throw to get bailed out by the refs.

I agree with whoever it was said earlier that if they'd just never thrown a flag in the first place, we wouldn't have heard a goddamn word about this on ESPN afterwards.

I'm well aware of what the ref that called the game said. I was simply posting what Blandino said because:

1.) It was quite a bit different than what everyone was arguing all day.

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2.) It seemed like such a dumb explanation since uncatchable is so much easier to defend, from a ref perspective.

Then letsgambol comes in with his foolishness still blabbering on about uncatchable like that was what the article was about.

Anyhow, pretty sure this thread will die now. On to Denver!!!

Can someone with skillz put this in avi form?

Goodie, has your wife or another loved one ever complained about you always having to get the last word in? Or is this something you just save for the forums?

Oh no, it's been a complaint. No doubt. My wife and I don't really fight very often though. She doesn't like arguing (cue Goodie's wife gimmick).

But yeah, I've gotten the complaint before. However, I have to say, it's obviously so much easier to be this way on 2+2. I'm not at all condescending IRL and would give up on an argument a lot sooner. But that's the same for a lot of 2+2ers I find. 2+2 is an outlet for me to argue freely. It's fun and a good distraction.

ok, we're done here.

summary:

- Tom Brady is a gutless, weak-armed loser.

- Pats suck.

- Pats fans suck more.

- LOL Goodie

ICE UP SONS