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04-22-2010 , 12:59 AM

#351

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So your problem is with the refereeing in the fight(for not taking points away)?

Thats kinda how I feel about the NY Yankees...its so unfair that they abuse the lack of a salary cap, but in the end I can't really blame them and instead I must blame the stupid rules that are in place that allow them to take advantage of it.

no, you obviously haven't watched the fight, or forgot.

When I said 'hiding behind the ref', i mean that Anderson actually ducked behind the referee. I would love to see you argue how that is 'fighting smart'.

and I also blame the ref for not enforcing the rules. Anderson broke the rules of the competition and should have been docked points.

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04-22-2010 , 02:19 AM

#352

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wow anyone watched yesterday's TUF?

the guy clearly faked getting hit by an illegal knee. like wow... he wanted out after breaking his hand and he got it.

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04-22-2010 , 03:11 AM

#353

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

wow anyone watched yesterday's TUF?

the guy clearly faked getting hit by an illegal knee. like wow... he wanted out after breaking his hand and he got it.

Nah, I rewound it and watched it in slow mo the first knee clearly hit him on the top of his head, the 2nd one however didn't touch anything but graze a forearm. At first I thought he was got kneed in the face twice, then after the replay I thought he was FOS but then rewatching it he clearly did get kneed the first time.

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04-22-2010 , 01:17 PM

#354

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didnt the first knee hit his hands covering up?

and he clearly acted hurt AFTER the 2nd knee it seemed

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04-22-2010 , 01:41 PM

#355

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I was giving the guy the benefit of the doubt because the 1st knee might have hit him (the 2nd one was lol) but when they showed that he had a broken hand it looks suspicious and. Pbb should rewatch that part in slowmotion though.

The fight in Episode 3 was pretty enjoyable imo.

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04-22-2010 , 01:44 PM

#356

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

didnt the first knee hit his hands covering up?

and he clearly acted hurt AFTER the 2nd knee it seemed

First went through his hands. Yea he went to his back after the 2nd knee, but I've seen delayed reactions to strikes before. A prime example is Brandon Vera vs. Justin Eilers. Vera connected with a headkick to the top of Eilers head Eilers was in the process of ducking out of the way and finished ducking but when he attempted to take a step back his legs buckled. It's very possible this was the same situation. It's also possible that despite taking a knee to the head he wasn't badly hurt but he knew he couldn't win with the messed up hand, but I give fighters more credit then that unless they are French, lol.

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04-22-2010 , 03:16 PM

#357

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He probably could have kept fighting and it might have been a bitchy angleshoot but rules are rules and the guy has nobody to blame but himself for throwing illegal knees.

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04-23-2010 , 12:02 AM

#358

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He probably could have kept fighting and it might have been a bitchy angleshoot but rules are rules and the guy has nobody to blame but himself for throwing illegal knees.

yeah, that's one of two reasons I am not bothered by this at all

1: Kasey will absolutely be back

2: Even if they didn't land illegally, they were clearly thrown with the intent to hit him in the head while he was on the ground.

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04-25-2010 , 07:29 PM

#359

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can someone please explain why theres only 3 judges still and its 2010?

subjective results demand less noise, how the **** does korean zombie lose

put a judge on each side of the octagon, ****.

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04-25-2010 , 07:36 PM

#360

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can someone please explain why theres only 3 judges still and its 2010?

subjective results demand less noise, how the **** does korean zombie lose

put a judge on each side of the octagon, ****.

athletic commissions are very much like an old boys club. It's very hard to get any sort of meaningful change to those sorts of things. There'd have to be an agreed upon change to the rulebook which is extremely unlikely to happen due to the bureaucrat-heavy, slow moving nature of the beast.

I would actually prefer to have some or all judges watching on TV, which I believe can often provide a better angle than cageside views can.

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04-25-2010 , 07:40 PM

#361

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So Dana White has no pull? I thought he owned everything. Couldnt he just say "Hahaha commission suck on this 9 judges booYAH"

theres gotta be an inflection point as to the optimal amoutn of judges, at a certain point you have too many to not be paranoid about corruption, but 3 is way too low. 1 time Dana White plzzzzz

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04-25-2010 , 08:14 PM

#362

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Originally Posted by TheUntouchable

Vegas is smart. They had Maia winning the fight like 14% of the time. You seem to think Maia wins that fight 0% of the time. Vegas is smarter than you.

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so i'm assuming you had your entire bankroll on silva -600?

+1 to both of these posts. Its just ridiculous how people are acting as if Maia had no chance whatsoever and that Silva could've walked right in and finished the fight with strikes without any risk at all. Maia definitely had a chance. Silva's strategy minimized Maia's chances.

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04-25-2010 , 08:15 PM

#363

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Originally Posted by Clayton

Dana does have a ****load of pull. But it's not infinite or anything. I'm sure despite his hothead reputation, he wants to utilize his pull in the best way possible.

Think of it like the vague concept of 'political capital'. He wants to spend his capital on the important issues, like getting MMA legalized in every state, getting favorable deals on taxes, and manipulating various things to protect the UFC, etc. Changing the number of judges is so far down the list he wouldn't bother to use his finite amount of pull on that issue.

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04-25-2010 , 08:18 PM

#364

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Dana White is a figurehead Brah. Fertittas would need to start smashing some skulls to get things changed.

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04-25-2010 , 09:28 PM

#365

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leg kicks are a BITCH

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04-25-2010 , 10:11 PM

#366

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i know those arent your legs so who is dat

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04-26-2010 , 12:38 AM

#367

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i know those arent your legs so who is dat

Faber ldo

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04-26-2010 , 02:42 AM

#368

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this wec event > entire year of ufc's and perhaps last year too..

so sick.

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04-26-2010 , 03:28 AM

#369

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It's hilarious how full of **** strikeforce is. The match between Overeem and Rogers is a "championship" fight.

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04-26-2010 , 03:33 AM

#370

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best part of the show was dana with his ****-eating grin while hanging with jake shields

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04-26-2010 , 01:36 PM

#371

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Originally Posted by MikkelsMisfortunes

It's hilarious how full of **** strikeforce is. The match between Overeem and Rogers is a "championship" fight.

Well that's only because M-1 is a joke, and Fedor let's his management have way too much control. Strikeforce wanted Fedor to fight for the title but M-1 didn't want Fedor to fight Overeem because of steroid concerns. Rogers fighting for the title is not on Strikeforce it's on M-1 and Fedor. The ratings for a Fedor/Overeem title fight would've been huge, Strikeforce definitely wanted that fight to happen.

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04-26-2010 , 01:39 PM

#372

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Originally Posted by DannyOcean_

leg kicks are a BITCH

Aldo is a monster, he's going to be the first fighter ever to have his legs kicked feared. This is the 2nd time in his WEC career that he systematically destroyed his opponent with leg kicks. But Faber showed a ton of heart fighting back in round 3 when it really looked like the fight was over when Aldo rocked him with the kick to the chin and went in for the kill, and in the 4th round when he had him in the crucifix for 90 seconds. I think the 5th round Aldo chose not to go for the kill because he had too much respect for Faber to try to further hurt him when Faber was basically fighting on 1 leg.

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04-26-2010 , 03:49 PM

#373

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Originally Posted by DannyOcean_

Also, can we finally put to rest the idea of Henderson being a great MMA-wrestler? He's not. He's never been. He's average at best for whatever reason in MMA. Rampage, who was a JUCO wrestler or something, took him down several times, as have many other fighters.

i've been saying this since bustamante took him down repeatedly from the clinch back in pride.

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ive never seen anyone get full mount that easily.

I wonder what gsp could do if he had that part of wrestling dominance mastered. Obviously, might just be hendo sucking pretty bad at preventing mount.

passing guard is wrestling now?

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M-1 didn't want Fedor to fight Overeem because he might lose.

lol steroid concerns. he used to fight in pride ffs.

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04-26-2010 , 03:58 PM

#374

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passing guard is wrestling now?

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04-26-2010 , 05:06 PM

#375

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i've been saying this since bustamante took him down repeatedly from the clinch back in pride.

passing guard is wrestling now?

lol steroid concerns. he used to fight in pride ffs.

Well I mean thats what M-1's excuse was. I'm sure the real reason is as you said, they are worried Fedor could actually lose, and which is why they made ridiculous demands so he wouldn't end up in the UFC.