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07-07-2012 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by radical marxist
we all know sonnen is entertaining in interviews and at press conferences but in the octagon his fighting style is always the same boring wrestling stuff. he rarely finishes fights and usually relies on a decision because his stiking and sub game are weak.

take down > hold the guy down > land weak-medium punches that score points but never KO a guy or cut him badly.

this is the problem with wrestlers in the UFC. they need to be able to sub/strike too and sonnen really can't. his only plan is take down and hold and win by decision. look at GSP, Jones, Maynard, Lesnar, Edgar, Henderson + tons more... all great wrestlers but can do other stuff.

sonnen is soooooo boring in the cage. hope he takes a slow beating like okami did. keep being made to get up. take that wrestling **** to the olympics. this is fighting.
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07-07-2012 , 08:49 PM
Chael definitely has difficulty finishing people, more than half of his wins are by decision, and that's including plenty of fights where he's been in a dominant position almost the entire time

Chael's record in the UFC is 6-4 to Silva's 14-0, and I don't really agree with Chael that Silva's record is padded, they've both fought equally tough opponents

On paper it looks like Chael should be a serious underdog, but when you watch their first fight, it just looks like Chael's style might be Silva's cryptonite

But at the same time, in that bout, while Chael was clearly winning the point fight, Anderson seemed to do more damage to Chael in full guard than Chael could do to Anderson in Anderson's full guard. Anderson did it all with his elbows, and actually did a ton of damage to Chael, people forget that

Chael has bad sinuses too, I don't know if he's blowing his nose which you're not supposed to do with a broken nose, but his eyes swell up really easily and obstruct his vision, I've seen that crazy swelling happen to him in multiple fights

If I was in Chael's corner I'd tell him to work on his elbow striking in his opponent's full guard which is a big trend right now. It lets you strike while your hands and forearms are in a defensive position without really exposing yourself, and elbows can really cut a guy's face up, ruin his vision, and break his will

Somebody who's as good at getting the takedown as Chael should really be training his ability to do damage from that position he gets into so often. Right now that position takes him to decision victories because he's focusing more on not giving the other guy a chance to stand up (that instinct is probably a remnant of his wrestling background). He should really be trying to maximize damage dealt, and if that means using your elbows and giving the other guy a chance to get back to his feet, so be it, you're Chael, you'll get him back down again anyway.
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07-07-2012 , 08:56 PM
The American Gangster is gonna whoop that ass tonight !
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07-07-2012 , 08:56 PM
[QUOTE=Eltbus;33644732]I gotta find a link to this puppy. Let us go Silva!

For you UFC enthusiasts, who is fighting in the other two fights?[/QU
griffin/ ortis Le/cote
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07-07-2012 , 09:07 PM
Griffin/Ortiz is a retirement fight for Tito, win or lose. Le/Cote is meh for me, Cote has been out of the UFC and Le is 40 and fading.

Menijvar/Easton in the BW division should be a fun fight. Chad Mendes (#2 or #3 FW in the world) has a squash match.

Nurmagomedov is a potential rising star imo. Big step up in competition in Gleison Tibau, who is massive for the LW division.
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07-07-2012 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DannyOcean_
Griffin/Ortiz is a retirement fight for Tito, win or lose. Le/Cote is meh for me, Cote has been out of the UFC and Le is 40 and fading.

Menijvar/Easton in the BW division should be a fun fight. Chad Mendes (#2 or #3 FW in the world) has a squash match.

Nurmagomedov is a potential rising star imo. Big step up in competition in Gleison Tibau, who is massive for the LW division.
Couldn't think a worse opponent for McKenzie. A wrestler with no neck who's clearly a level up from him as a fighter. Not to clear on the "squash" reference. Squash is easy?? or not contact?
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07-07-2012 , 09:34 PM
how much more till fight?
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07-07-2012 , 09:37 PM
Squash match means that he's going to squash him like a bug. maybe it's a regionalism?
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07-07-2012 , 09:38 PM
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how much more till fight?
30 minutes until the PPV starts, and there are 5 fights before the main event, idk maybe 2 hours?.
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07-07-2012 , 09:45 PM
"A disclaimer has been made, my conscience is clear, if you show up it's on your hands."
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07-07-2012 , 09:51 PM
i have such a mancrush on sonnen right now
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07-07-2012 , 09:58 PM
YessssSSSSSSSSs I found a stream.
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07-07-2012 , 10:01 PM
Can anyone pm some links pls? Thx!
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07-07-2012 , 10:01 PM
Been waitin for this fight for so long there is no way im not ordering it in.
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07-07-2012 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
i have such a mancrush on sonnen right now
i hope he gets KTFO!

annoying db...
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07-07-2012 , 10:06 PM
NE1 know a good place to go canoeing? My old stream dried up....(
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07-07-2012 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Eltbus
YessssSSSSSSSSs I found a stream.
You mind PMing it, my two websites I usually use are ****ed up right now klnjkhjghgtcgdxdcfgbkh

Actually I'm good now, went to my double secret backup
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07-07-2012 , 10:09 PM
found a stream too and was watching for 10 minutes before it stopped. Happen for anybody else too?
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07-07-2012 , 10:11 PM
Some of those streams may be laggin out. This is one of the biggest fights in a long time.
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07-07-2012 , 10:12 PM
someone pm me a link also, first###sp#### is mess up.
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07-07-2012 , 10:13 PM
Lol, those rookie links. I'll try and PM everyone.

canoeing? the ****.
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07-07-2012 , 10:14 PM
For those who are desperate http://www.rojadirecta.me has it in Portuguese.
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07-07-2012 , 10:15 PM
Link Elt is sending, is the same one I remember right before he sent it to me. It's solid.

No one sit in the First Row tonight because that crap isn't working
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07-07-2012 , 10:19 PM
looking for a poem or canoe to paddle on plz pm
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07-07-2012 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Tokyo!!
looking for a poem or canoe to paddle on plz pm
+1 the one i use isnt working
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