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01-03-2016 , 01:53 AM
Condit landed twice as many strikes in the third round. This isn't rocket science.
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01-03-2016 , 01:54 AM
Reading the EDF thread is funny, especially the part where digables mentions he would never ever root against Lawler.
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01-03-2016 , 01:59 AM
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Lawler is probably the worst champion in the division (just skillwise). Would have lost to Rory if the fight lasted 2 more minutes and got handed a W for no reason here.
He won exactly 1:00 into rd 5

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I want more ten tens and think third could have been it . Def don't see condit winning 2 ever
I'm inclined to score that way based on merit but people don't like the real world results of draws ftmp

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Scoring def needs revamped but it's not gonna happen. That fight was all 10-9s tho in any system
and that leads to where I think the half point scoring system (or raise scoring to 20 points) is ideal. Avoids 10-10 mostly (10-9.5) but allows for a dominant round (10-8.5) to not have to be one where you're surprised that the loser survives (10-8.0). We'd still mainly see 10-9.0 rounds as well but the fight wouldn't have been all 10-9s.

concept still doesn't change inept judging tho, if they can't handle the simple they're def going to **** up the nuanced
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01-03-2016 , 02:06 AM
Sorry your breakfast was spoiled Marty

ROBBIE

great fight, just caught up
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01-03-2016 , 02:07 AM
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concept still doesn't change inept judging tho
...which is the cause of 90% of scoring problems, like it was for a few fights tonight.
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01-03-2016 , 03:32 AM
idk i have just seen sooooooo many absurd boxing scores in the last few years that i can't get too up in arms about this fight. need to watch 3 again, thought the other ones were pretty clear but even them giving 1 to robbie wouldn't have phased me too much. like walters-sosa just a couple weeks ago was somehow a draw even though walters literally won every single round. sucks for condit
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01-03-2016 , 06:41 AM
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Reading the EDF thread is funny, especially the part where digables mentions he would never ever root against Lawler.

Youre weird
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01-03-2016 , 07:12 AM
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idk i have just seen sooooooo many absurd boxing scores in the last few years that i can't get too up in arms about this fight. need to watch 3 again, thought the other ones were pretty clear but even them giving 1 to robbie wouldn't have phased me too much. like walters-sosa just a couple weeks ago was somehow a draw even though walters literally won every single round. sucks for condit
And the thing is, if you look at who delivers those boxing scores, you'll see a ton of the same names.
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01-03-2016 , 08:44 AM
I like Robbie but that's an absolute robbery.
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01-03-2016 , 09:13 AM
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Youre weird
No. What's weird tho is your display of dimwitted homerism in one mma thread while you've the cheek to come itt accusing me of being a homer.

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FU nuthug.
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01-03-2016 , 09:26 AM
Plus I don't think it was as good a fight as people are saying.

Like his fights against Rory and Hendricks Robbie was a walking punching bag until the last
round, while Condit's strikes weren't doing much damage.
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01-03-2016 , 12:23 PM
Very disappointing to see Robbery Lawler win that fight.

Robbery's strategy is simple wait until the 5th round and try to go nuts and meanwhile the rest of his fight is him absorbing a massive amount of punishment. Exciting last round, maybe one of best I've seen, but lets not forget how slow of a pace the champion set for first 4 rounds.

He didnt beat hendricks (but it was closer then this fight) and this one was clearly condit, and seems like most people agree that decision was bull****.
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01-03-2016 , 12:30 PM
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And the thing is, if you look at who delivers those boxing scores, you'll see a ton of the same names.

Don't know tho there is a thread on BLH called "this week in terrible judging " and it sure seems like there is a pretty large contingent of "respected" judges that get on there eventually . I think judging from ringside must be more difficult than we think or there really is some strong whispering in ears or some combo of both
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01-03-2016 , 02:29 PM
It's odd to say because the 10 point must system creates "close" scores for fights that aren't actually that close, but this seemed like a clear 48-47 win for Condit. I didn't have an issue scoring any of the rounds.

I guess we can run it again but truth be told, this fight seemed pretty meh until Rd. 5
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01-03-2016 , 06:16 PM
Decision and the fight in general reminds me a lot of Shogun/Machida I
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01-04-2016 , 12:08 AM
Robbie clearly won 2 and 5 imo. Hard to give him any other round, although it doesn't shock me that two judges did give him those.

It was a close fight overall. Total strikes stats is deceiving, because Condit landed with a ton of half-assed, half-power stuff. The majority of his kicks were kind of slapped-out-there, not thudding-into-the-body-powerfully. Condit should get credit for his volume, but also have it noted that most of the volume didn't do much real damage.

In terms of 'actual damage shots', both fighters probably had about equal amounts of solid damage done. Maybe Robbie had a little more? Maybe not. I had Condit winning the fight, but I'm not outraged by the decision. I'm more like 'perturbed, but moving on with a shrug'. This isn't even top ten for worst decisions this year imo. And getting to see a rematch will be great, and more 5-round Lawler fights is always good entertainment.
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01-04-2016 , 12:53 AM
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This isn't even top ten for worst decisions this year imo.
We do not have 10 decisions for the year so it probably is.
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01-05-2016 , 01:11 AM
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Robbie clearly won 2 and 5 imo. Hard to give him any other round, although it doesn't shock me that two judges did give him those.

It was a close fight overall. Total strikes stats is deceiving, because Condit landed with a ton of half-assed, half-power stuff. The majority of his kicks were kind of slapped-out-there, not thudding-into-the-body-powerfully. Condit should get credit for his volume, but also have it noted that most of the volume didn't do much real damage.

In terms of 'actual damage shots', both fighters probably had about equal amounts of solid damage done. Maybe Robbie had a little more? Maybe not. I had Condit winning the fight, but I'm not outraged by the decision. I'm more like 'perturbed, but moving on with a shrug'. This isn't even top ten for worst decisions this year imo. And getting to see a rematch will be great, and more 5-round Lawler fights is always good entertainment.
Pretty much this.

I thought it was a 48-48 draw, with a 10-10. I assumed judges would give it to Lawler because of the unwritten, if it is close, give the champ the round rule.
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01-05-2016 , 01:48 PM
That's not a rule. That's just bias.
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01-07-2016 , 11:57 PM
UFC 197: Conor/RDA and Holm/Cupcake

Damn
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01-08-2016 , 12:32 AM
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UFC 197: Conor/RDA and Holm/Cupcake

Damn


Unbelievable
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01-08-2016 , 12:57 AM
Wow, I didn't see them doing Connor/RDA so soon. I really didn't.

Of all his future opponents RDA most likely to beat him. Figured it would be Diaz or Edgar.
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01-08-2016 , 01:04 AM
Never seen a fighter who puts himself out there like Conor.

I'm of Irish descent but I was a pretty vocal critic of him before the Mendes fight but dude is breaking the mold. GSP and Anderson stayed in their lane, not Conor.

He's like BJ w/o the flaws.
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01-08-2016 , 02:36 AM
Basically if Conor beats RDA, we're talking potential future GOAT MMA fighter right?
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