its ok, he is still the peoples champion

maybe the twins will go some crazy 27 inning game over the weekend and he'll get to pitch

also RIP Billy hamilton, head is broken after robbing a home run

Phil won 16 games this season, wow not bad.

I remember saying he would be a legit no.3 pitcher back in 08 when he was on the NYY. time will tell

FIP 2.67, xFIP 3.15. Time has told.

Gjge kyleb

Trevor Bauer is so ****ing terrible and the stupid look he always has on his face needs to be smacked off.

why not just let beurhle go for the CG? 93 pitches, home crowd, and toronto has nothing else to live for

the people wanted to see sanchez spit hot fire

awesome catch by alex gordon. still needs to be DH'd for tho.

Basically this.



The whole if he played somewhere else argument is one of the more ridiculous statements you can make because the clear counter-point is you can take a Mike Trout, Andrew McCutchen, Giancarlo Stanton, etc.. bring them to the Yankees put them in pinstripes then all of a sudden "the common fan" gets wet between the legs and their public image gets overexposed to the point of nausea to the "educated fan". My point being overexposed as a baseball player is probably the better word to use than overrated.

Now overrated as a player?????...when you were making this argument why did you pigeon-holed guys Chipper Jones, Jeff Bagwell, and Ken Griffey Jr to compare to Jeter where Jeter he has zero chance to win the argument. Let's just throw Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Ted Williams, etc in there as well just to pile on to prove your point. If your point is KGJ is > then Jeter then LDO but it's really an apples/oranges argument. Jeter was never the player that KGJ was hyped up to be when he was first breaking into the show, nor was Jeter ever hyped up to be a Power/Slugger type hitter like the other three you mentioned.

If the idea is to create debate on the value of Derek Jeter as a baseball player it would be a fairer argument to compare by position. Use Jeter's rookie year to the end of his prime then take the top echelon players of that era like A-Rod, Miguel Tejada, or Garciaparra , while at the same time also look at rest of the SS during Jeter's RY-prime then come back and say hmm was Jeter overall like 21st best SS in the league or closer to top 5. I just don't understand why you want to pick all-time power hitters then put them up vs Jeter like he ever stood a chance.

feel bad for the bolded, imagine if they were in pinstripes instead.

Back in 1996, no one thought Jeter was going to be the one to last with regards to that class of SS's. ****, I remember living in NJ and there was a Jeter vs Rey Ordonez debate in NY every night as to which would have the better career. It lasted like a month.

I think that's part of the rage against Jeter. People bitch "Well he was never as good as Nomar or A-Rod in their prime!" Well yea, but those guy didn't last as long as Jeter either. Nomar retired from playing SS almost 10 years ago and was out of baseball in 2009. A-Rod switched positions, but it's not like he would have lasted another 10 years at SS. His hips were ****ed up and would have moved to 3rd or 1B anyway. The fact that Jeter stayed at SS for 20 years appeals to a lot of the casual fans.

Basically I just mentioned those players because they are close to Jeter in career WAR and are modern players. I would think casual fans would rank Jeter ahead of all of them but maybe I am wrong.

Not a Yankees fan or hater (although I did root for the sox in 03/04 like the rest of America). But cmon, guys like Jeter aren't a dime a dozen. First ballot hof, played 20 years at a pretty mobile position, was a great hitter up until the end, and played for numerous winners.

Give the guy his ****ing due.

People that are hating on Jeter probably complain about everything in life. Instead of nitpicking his lack of power, or subpar defense, match his career over anyone else's at the position the last 20 years.

PS- Banging minka kelly counts for something too right?

I think most people feel he was an excellent hitter, by all accounts a great leader in the clubhouse, and obviously a first ballot Hall of Famer. It's just that his deification is sickening.

Supposed to rain tomorrow and somewhat heavily at times in NY all day into the night.

Would love to see the riots and heartbreak if they cancel the game and they miss the whole final fellatio.

yankee ghosts won't allow that to happen

fun fact: Jeter hit .321 in 7 world series.

LOL. A-Rod moved to 3rd because of "waaaaaaaaaaaa Jeter"

Before he moved to 3rd in 2004, he was an above average defender at SS while Jeter was already a below average. Jeter might go down as the worst defensive SS in history.

Only thing I can figure is so his arm can fall off now and he get surgery sooner. That, instead of his arm going again two games into 2015 season.

Don't remember Robin Yount getting 5% of recognition Jeter got. Pretty comparable careers.

Can't wait for this season to be over so I don't have to look at Jeter's face all over Sportscenter every 5 minutes.

Don't remember Robin Yount getting 5% of the ***** Jeter got either.

Did you use yount cuz I live in WI? Funny, I was going to use him in comparison, actually. But...

World series rings? Changing positions? Totally different eras? Many variables involved. Just saying applaud his career, whether kissing his ass is needed or not, still a lot better than what wr have today in the game or can expect moving forward.

Yount is pretty much an icon around here still to this day and makes plenty of appearances.

This is the point I'm trying to make, that's all. I do think guys of his caliber should get a farewell final homestand hoopla, but don't agree with a year round celebration.

Maybe in New York, but here in Milwaukee, we gave him bronze bats. Wtf is he gonna do with those? Probably doesn't even know where they are right now.

JEETS also did his **** in an era of roiders. a lot of the love is displaced hate from all the scumbags.

jeter haters are pathetic.

He's not even close to a first ballot hall of famer stat wise, he's just ahead of the borderline guys. (ie he should be in but barely) His career WAR (used baseball references quickly here) is behind Whitaker, Walker, Thome, Beltre. He's barely ahead of Palmerio/Trammell etc.

It's absolutely ridic teams gave him all this retirement ceremony crap when he was their opponent and hasn't actually retired yet.