I just hate the idea of a baseball team sitting dormant for a week.

This is so bad

never go full bettman

You might have to get used to the idea of them sitting for a year

Wait players want more teams to make the playoffs than the owners? And now we're to the point where it's either 12 or 14 teams? RIP baseball regular season. Can't wait for load management to get more extreme, starters to skip even more starts. So dumb. People ruin everything

**** the owners. **** the players.

Baseball is the one constant we have had over the years. And NOW they want to take that away???

That's like taking away a part of AMERICA!

Where is the REPRESENTATION for the FANS?!?!!?

On the real, I have no sympathy for players getting ripped off my owners, when both are happy to rip off the fans and suck every last possible dollar out of them. Get off my lawn rant coming but I remember going to Yankee Stadium, YANKEE STADIUM, with my dad and uncle and being able to sit in reasonable seats, have some peanuts and ice cream helmet, and go a few times a year. Now it's just so insufferable, expensive and an awful experience, with good seats being completely empty and impossible for regular people to get that I have absolutely zero interest in going. Tickets through the roof. Concessions through the roof. Parking through the roof. **** both of them. I have zero sympathy for either of these multi multi millionaires

Damn Commies !

you're right concessions and parking are insane at YS (parking has always been a disaster there) and pretty much all stadiums but ticket prices are not through the roof for most games unless you think the only good seats are the legends seats. Ignore whatever nonsense the yankees charge for tickets and look on stubhub or vivid. 95+ percent of games are way cheaper on those sites and have been for almost a decade.

Would love to see the players demand lower prices for the fans. Won’t happen, but that would be something.

https://twitter.com/mlbpaint/status/1498774327021510661

If they did, it should be looked at as nothing more than an incredibly phony PR stunt.

The players are in it for themselves. Their actions are always in the context of getting their fair share of the pie. There is no logical reason why they would (or should) demand that the pie be smaller. Forget the "long term good of the game" argument, the players union doesn't give a **** about that. The pay window will be long closed on the current membership before there are positive financial results from any "fan friendly" initiatives they could push.

This is not to say that I blame the players for getting theirs. I don't. MLB ownership is greedy, shortsighted and stupid. They are the worst. But to think even for a second that the players would (or should) act in an altruistic fashion "for the fans" is ridiculous.

No reason for them to lower prices unless they think that would somehow result in more money in the long run.

Right I get it. Capitalism. But there's also no reason for the owners to concede power/money to the players using the same logic

Well there is if the players don’t play and they can’t earn money.

Like saying there is if the fans don't go and they don't earn money. Fans will always go and players will always play. No one is walking away from $300m+ to play a baseball game

TV ruined the game, as TV ruins everything else. The owners if they had their way wouldn’t even have fabs in the stands. They have the tv rights money, and that’s all they need.


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Ok Boomer.

So looks like no defensive shifts allowed this year? Defining needing to play in "traditional starting positions" could be fuzzy. Do they mark the field somehow?

It also will make games longer.

Had me scared for a second. I didn't find any new news regarding the shift in the negotiations.

Just basing it off this tweet - looks like it's for 2023 though

I'm surprised the MLBPA would be against robo umps. How much Angel Hernandez can they take?

MLB just has to accept baseball isn't "exciting" in terms of non-stop action and embrace the things the people love about it.

Banning shifts instead of learning to hit the ball the other way is lol. Shifts aren't the problem. Boom/bust strikeout or home run is the problem

That Heyman tweet is almost certainly misleading, on account of there isn't a CBA signed yet. "Players union agreed to..." is probably shill-speak for "This was in the last union proposal, and is contingent upon a deal where the owners/league concede to other stuff", and when the owners don't concede to, say, $245MM CBT threshold, he can go and report that the players' union reneged on something that they had been the ones to offer in the first place, as if anyone gives a ****.

The actual problems with baseball in no particular order:

1. No salary floor
2. The unwritten rules
3. MLB Writers
4. Eddyb