lol g-men

Hit batter and two consecutive errors.

need help settling a debate. Which of the following two teams is most likely not making the playoffs:

dodgers
giants
pirates
cards
nats
mets

Cards
Pirates

let's say the giants tie this game up, who pitches for them? i think BOCH has used 17 relievers the last 2 innings

pirates and mets

how do our guesses settle a debate?

Dodgers Pirates

more of a disagreement I guess on whether he is being a homer or not. I think the mets are in the worst position, he disagrees, but is a mets fan. That lineup is just atrocious and don't think getting healthy is going to change much even with their sick rotation

We already made a wager between the nats and mets, and then it got into who gets the wildcards.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/15...-saturday-game

yeah no ****

It's not like the nats lineup is much to write home about

"I've done too much in this town to have that kind of stuff," Howard told reporters Sunday. "If you want to yell out 'You suck,' that's whatever. But when you start throwing stuff, that's when stuff gets personal."

Not defending the act at all, but pretty sure "stuff got personal" when his agent and Amaro sunk the franchise with what was immediately recognizable as one of the worst deals ever signed.

I don't see how that's personal. Howard got offered 100+m to play baseball and took it. We'd all do the same and would (probably) strike out even more than him. Therefore acting like he's some horrible person is dumb.

Otoh **** ryan howard

We'd absolutely do the same. At the same time, franchises ask fans for--and profit from--an emotional attachment to how the team fares, so when the team fares poorly in a way that can be traced, it's unreasonable to expect fans to not have an emotional reaction to the causal individual. Does that make throwing a bottle an acceptable act? Obviously not; but it makes it an act I can explain.

I interviewed a lot of celebs in my poker media days, and one philosophy I brought away from those conversations was that fame is the price you pay for the money that comes with it. I feel for Howard, but he's learning that. Signing that deal came with a responsibility/expectation to perform. He hasn't. There's a consequence.

Getting emotionally attached to sports teams owned and operated by clueless scumbags is entirely on the fans imo.

Sure it is, but that's a logical approach to an emotional (and therefore, by nature, illogical) relationship. Without it, there'd be no MLB, and the nature of most people is to expect something in return for their emotional investment in anything. If they don't get it, be it from a baseball team, love or what have you, they have a negative, often vitriolic response. Right or wrong, that's human nature.

Obviously Howard is 100 pct correct (except the part about what he's done for the phillies- it's irrelevant ). Nobody should have beer bottles thrown at them.Sorry there is no justification for ass clowns hurling bottles at players.If I can refrain from hurling bottles at Nick Swisher anyone can refrain from bottle hurling.

oh so they 100% win if he pinch hits rizzo earlier?

yea well everyone has bad games once in a while and these things are more likely to happen when ****bags like ivan nova can't hold 7-0 7th inning leads and make them burn miller for 2 innings.

well not 100%, but it def increases quite a bit. we had a perfect spot for him to pinch hit last night leading off in bottom of the 7th for Matt Sczur. This essentially guaranteed Rizzo having at least 2 plate appearances in a 1 run game. like I understand Joe wanting to get him up with someone in scoring position, but we are only down 1. just put him in ASAP imo.

and not to be results oriented, but Sczur struck out in the 7th. he absolutely should have not batted right there.

Well the whole reason he wasn't in the lineup was to give him a day off, so getting him the maximum number of at bats and making him play the field for several innings wasn't really the goal. Obviously if winning yesterday's game was the only thing that mattered, then he would've been in the lineup over Szczur from the very beginning.

Rizzo was finally getting hot and Joe rested him like a week ago against the Phillies. I'm sure he's rested plenty and wouldn't have minded playing the final 3+ inning of a close game, something we haven't had many of this early season.

Come on Marlins make us proud

lol "WE"
since apparently you're on the team go tell madden yourself.

"We" is a great reflection of the emotional investment I was talking about earlier, though it usually describes a relationship that reaches back more than 24 months