the real LOL is trying to come up with a winner when there is 120 participants in the sport that only play 12-14 games

it's times like these where rooting for a NCAA also-ran is pretty nice

I've never had an excuse to build up animosity toward the BCS (other than 2001... not really, but there was a one loss team that played for the title and it was not Illinois)

Actually, you don't know what you're talking about. Kudos for following the pattern of this thread however.

I like this thread a lot. I like how Texas fans assumes they got screwed and are now claiming how messed up the system is. The truth is both Texas and Oklahoma were deserving to get the championship game. Yes, Texas beat Oklahoma and that makes them deserving. But, Oklahoma had a much more impressive non-conference schedule and performance, as well they dismantled the team that beat Texas. Texas is only screwed if you look at one game, Oklahoma is screwed if the whole season was supposed to count.

Perhaps Oklahoma fans and Texas fans can unite in something. Mizzu is truly the undeserving team! Mizzu is not even in the top 3, possibly not even top 4 of the conference. Why do they get a chance to win the big 12, with a very unimpressive 5-3 conference record in the weak North division? What probably will be done in the off-season with the Big 12 is a tweaking of their tie-breakers to favor Texas. What really should be done, as well for all other conferences with championship games, is the divisions should be removed and done away with. In place, setup scenarios and ways to choose the top 2 teams to play in the championship game. If this were in place this year, at least only 1 out of the 3 tied teams would have not gotten the chance to play for the title and likely the BCS championship.

That would be ******ed. Running the RRS twice per year with the first one not counting is absurd.

FIRST ONE DIDN'T COUNT THIS YEAR, DUCY?

Only Oklahoma's loss counts to him. Apparently, either the fact UT lost is insignificant or he forgot about that.

Can we start the official countdown for days until Texas loses to Utah?

I'm just kidding, obviously Tex will dodge another better team in the BCS.

You out of anyone should understand bitter rivalries. The RRR is always the biggest regular season game of the year for both teams. Even though I can understand why OU jumped us it doesn't make it suck any less.

I could see a deflated Texas team losing their bowl game.

omfg don't use 'RRR'

IS NOT A 'RIVALRY' IS 'SHOOTOUT' YES?

meh....Nebraska rivalry was better until they screwed it up.

We must have a built in excuse just in case.

And Arkansas and the Aggies to Texas. We're talking about the here and now though!

Quick question: When Texas loses does Colt McCoy think God hates him?

Quick follow up: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAA TEXAS!

Thanks for the time,

Calda

this cannot be overemphasized imo

Texas homers are so obnoxious. I hope to god they don't hit their 6 outer and get to the national championship.

I'm feeling very hurt as a result of this thread

I think Missouri beating OU is more like a 2 outer.

Nope. 5.8 to 1 according to the current betting line.

Haven't really read all the thread, but is this just Texas homers vs. the rest, or is there actually a debate on who the best of the Big 12 teams are? Because I think it's OU and don't think it's anywhere close. Even in their loss I still felt they were the best team, just kind of ran bad.

No, there's some legitimate debate, but the non-homers who think texas is better still hate them.

Depends on how many cards are left......and I thought poker analogies were banned on SE?

And see, the same pattern will follow all other BCS controversies, and say "SEE THE COMPUTERS GOT IT WRONG"

2004 - Auburn is a clear #3 in the human and computer polls. They, like Texas, got screwed, but in the sense of "you aren't being rewarded appropriately for your season" NOT the sense of "someone clearly inferior is going over you. They get to play a marginal Va Tech team, win ugly 17-14 and then claim they would have won, no matter what happens in the national title game.

This year, no matter what happens, THE COMPUTERS GOT IT WRONG.

If OU loses the MNC game, obviously GRAVE INJUSTICE, Texas was clearly better, proved it on the field, didn't get their shot.

If OU wins the MNC, then it's 'meh, SEC was overrated, Texas could have won the game too, they beat the champs on a neutral field. Hell even if Texas LOSES their bowl game, well, they were deflated b/c they weren't in the MNC game.

Self-fulfilling prophecies FTW.

Good point and I give you props for not being near the homer that The4thFilm is.

I'm still a huge homer but I now realize I should only spew it to my fellow Texas brethren. 4thFilm is only making SE hate UT more.

Maybe a Texas thread can be created so it can be quarantined. Just as long as dangeraw doesn't post in it.

nah... there are plenty of legitimate reasons for people to favor Texas over Oklahoma... it's not just homers

1. the head-to-head argument
most will say this doesn't count cause it's a 3-way tie with all winning one game and Oklahoma winning big. The Texas POV is that Tech's huge loss to Oklahoma just excludes Tech from the debate. Tech drops out first since they got shellacked. You are left with a choice of Texas-Oklahoma. Since Texas won on a neutral field against Oklahoma, they should go. After all, isn't a neutral field victory exactly what a playoff is.

2. Road loss under trying conditions versus a neutral loss under equal conditions
Texas one loss came on the road playing their 4th game in a row against a top 10 team. Oklahoma's one loss came on a neutral field with both teams rested coming into the game.

3. Better schedule
Both sides have a debate here. I went through and showed mathematically that Texas' schedule was tougher from an expected win/loss perspective than Oklahoma's.

Oklahoma's argument

1. Margin of victory and impressive wins
They shellacked Texas Tech. They won by more against Cowboy St. They look like the 'best' team in primetime games late in the year. Oklahoma won the MOV for the season, among common opponents, and among the 3 teams tied for the BigXII South.

2. More impressive non-conference wins
Cincinnati and TCU look pretty good right now. This overcomes the fact Texas played Mizzou.

3. More impressive team overall
Look at computer rankings, such as sagarin, fremeau efficiency index, massey combined. Oklahoma is slightly better.

There is a good debate here IMO