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The Browns scored a TD with just over a minute to go and recovered the onside kick with 2 TOs left. Had the raiders kicked the FG and makes it a 3 score game with less than 5 minutes to play, the game is over. Not kicking gave the Browns a chance a tying.

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10-16-2011 , 07:34 PM

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nutshot2

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seems awful

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10-16-2011 , 07:42 PM

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BraveJayhawk

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Had a few doozie's in the late games...

New Orleans' replacement head coach doesn't know how to utilize his timeouts. Let clock run to 2:00 without calling to and then elected to challenge. Lose challenge, lose timeout, gg

Hue goes on 4th & 1 up 14 in 4th quarter.

Jason Garrett elects to run, run up 3 vs new England because he doesn't trust romo

Rank 'em

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10-16-2011 , 07:48 PM

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ut2010

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And then passes again and again in the redzone!

Jason Garretts playcalling was Chillyball level of awfulness. Enough said.

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10-16-2011 , 07:59 PM

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natediggity

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every time this thread gets bumped I become more convinced that SE is just clueless

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10-16-2011 , 08:50 PM

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prohornblower

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Kubiak punted from the 39 today when he should have done any other thing.

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10-16-2011 , 09:11 PM

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Victor

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seems perfectly fine

no it doesnt. not at all. fg seals a win. the only way you can lose is by not scoring on that possession.

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10-16-2011 , 09:12 PM

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Needle77

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I'm sure at this point JDR is doing his best to get fired.

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10-16-2011 , 09:42 PM

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toddw8

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That happens to legit punters though, too.

I kind of dig the idea. It's similar to trying to control distance on a lob wedge as opposed to a 7 iron. With the 7iron you just take a full swing all the time.

Shouldn't be hard to find a guy on a roster of 53 incredible athletes who can punt a ball high and exactly 40 yards every time.

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What? These aren't close to similar. Besides that, a punter doesn't lose value if he can't punt a curve or slider.

Also, have NFL teams been actively searching for guys who can punt short but consistenly? Somehow I doubt it. They aren't even searching for assistants who can veto timeouts and challenges.

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This really isn't a complicated concept. Try hitting a lob wedge 30-40 yards consistently.

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There doesn't have to be evidence of something for it to be true. We're just kind of speculating and wondering if it could be true. But you and Boris are getting all mad because there are no data. Guys who are designated as "punters" on an NFL roster aren't the only ones who can catch a snapped ball and kick it up in the air.

Do you really not see the difference in consistency in the following 2 tactics:

1) Punt ball as hard and high as I can every time
2) Adjust height and/or power depending on how close I am to the EZ.

Obv. the pro punter does get some edge just in the fact that he's going to automatically be a better executor in general, of punts.

I know I'm late to this argument, but you are thinking about it backwards imo. Just get a better long-snapper and have your punter stand on his own 29 yard line regardless of field position so he can just boom it down to the one every time. EZ game.

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10-16-2011 , 10:02 PM

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Thought Belichick had one today. Tied 13-13 with a few minutes left in the 3rd, Patriots have 4th and 4 from the Dallas 39 and punt. Troy Aikman makes an entry into the media thread by saying he likes Belichick's decision specifically because Dallas has been moving the ball well on the Patriots. Uhm, ok.

Naturally the result was running into the kicker for the first down. Run better, Patriots.

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10-16-2011 , 10:12 PM

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Phildo

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yeah that seemed very unbelichick like.

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10-16-2011 , 10:27 PM

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kidcolin

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levels ahead

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10-16-2011 , 10:27 PM

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prohornblower

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When the other team is moving the ball well against you, the last thing you want to do is keep your drive alive.

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10-16-2011 , 10:29 PM

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was def surprised by that call

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10-17-2011 , 12:59 AM

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Or

Line up backup QB 20 yards from LOS, who then receives the snap and throws it to the punter who is 30 yards behind him, and then he can put all the leg he wants into it. EZer game*

*Coverage might be an issue.

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10-17-2011 , 01:04 AM

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THAKID

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Cant believe pats punted there

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10-17-2011 , 02:25 AM

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The 4 nominees so far are:

1 Lovie Smiths Late 1st qtr challenge
2 Jon Harbaugh penalty decline
3 Mike Mccarthys onside kick up 10
4 Hue Jacksons no gield goal

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10-17-2011 , 05:26 AM

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I don't think its entirely fair to claim a coach's decision to challenge as stupid. Its not like their thought process is, "Well the call on the field is obviously correct, but I'll challenge it anyways." If they are challenging a play, they think there is a decent chance of it getting overturned.

I think other decisions (4th down decisions, onside kicks, intentional walks, etc.) that really question the logic of the coaches better demonstrate the stupidity of coaches.

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10-17-2011 , 08:01 AM

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Aidan

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But its obviously stupid when they fail to take the opportunity to check the possible replays before challenging.

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10-17-2011 , 10:16 AM

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Detroit up 19-15 with pending extra point. Beginning of 4th quarter.

Detroit went for 2. Can't be right. A SF touchdown and you're down 3 instead of 2. And that's what happened.

Not obviously wrong. There is basically no difference between being up 4 and up 5. Being up 6 (meaning 2 FGs doesn't beat you) is a huge difference.

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10-17-2011 , 10:49 AM

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But its obviously stupid when they fail to take the opportunity to check the possible replays before challenging.

It's possible that they don't have access to all of the same angles/replays as viewers at home. Plus the coach doesn't have all that much time to decide, and if the ball is about to be snapped it is sometimes worth it to risk losing a timeout and a challenge (depending on the magnitude of the play).

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10-17-2011 , 10:57 AM

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BadBoyBenny

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I'm gonna go with Payton not dodging Jimmy Graham and Jim Schwartz trying to start a fight in front of 20+ TV Cameras

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10-17-2011 , 10:58 AM

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Victor

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im pretty sure the coaches though process on most challenges is how great a position the team will be if they win it. they dont take into account the likelihood of winning nor the investment. kinda like the donkey chasing that one card that can save him.

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10-17-2011 , 11:04 AM

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Aidan

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Oh, yes, I agree completely. I was just saying that i think it is possible for a challenge to be obviously stupid, something Luka appeared to disagree with.

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10-17-2011 , 12:22 PM

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right, but with the NO situation, there's 2:20 left and the clock is running. You're going to want to take a timeout anyway, so just use your challenge. Worst case scenario you lose your challenge for the remaining 120 seconds AND TB must run a play before the 2 min warning. NO instead waits for CBS to replay it a few times at the 2 min break, and THEN challenges, effectively wasting a TO. TB would have been forced to get another first down if you stop the clock at 2:15.

As an aside, I didn't think that was a catch. Ground trapped, imo.

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