Thread title doesn't do it justice.

thread title does it justice

Let's not lose sight of the decision to short-kick it to Harvin in the midst of all of his other decision-making. NFL Films should have had a crew filming all of Fox' meetings during the past two weeks. It would make existing Football Follies look like Schindler's List.

I approve of thread title now.

Same.

A+ title change

That punt was basically "I don't care about winning this football game". I didn't think we'd see a worse decision to punt than Pagano's but this is probably it.

Message sent: We do not care about winning this football game being played. Half these guys will get CTE and die before age 60 but as far as winning is concerned.... well, we just don't ****ing care.

John Fox has to be the worst coach in the league, even worse than McCarthy. Can we rank the bottom 5 somehow?

It's some mix of:

28 Marvin Lewis
29 Caldwell
30 FAT DUMB MIKE
31 Pagano
32 John Fox

22-27 (some order):
Mike Smith
Tomlin
Browns Coach
McCoy
Philbin
Garrett

One of the guys covering the game for Fox (local station) said that the Broncos have a very bright future with Peyton and Fox.

Yeah, super bright furtue they have there with a QB who has 3 more years MAX and the biggest fraud HC out there. What's the o/u on how many years Fox survives post-Peyton? 1.5?

i said before the play "4 down territory and carroll surely doesn't know that so i doubt they expect a run". unfortunately our coach didn't quite get it either.

tbh, this playoffs was pretty eye opening...

sean peyton made some pretty lol fox worthy decisions in the game against seattle that really just basically lost all respect i had for him ever

but yeah right now the top three Elite are

Fox
pagano
Fat mike

and i dont think its close


tier two
lewis
garret
mike smith
... prob a few more but those three for sure,

I'm still in shock of how bad that draw/punt was.

yeah i posted same thing in game day thread...

i assume run was audible by peyton assuming he had two chances to get 1st, prob last time he makes that mistake


when i first saw kick i thought they were going for onside, like a longish one, where they sail over first tier of guys and catch the rest by surprise and thought "great play call"

then it just kept floating to like the 15 and i was instantly "lol fox, harvin td incoming..."

It's not even ****ing close to as bad as Pagano's. I think you've repressed the memory of how goddamn terrible Pagano's punt was. They had 4th and ONE. ONE YARD. And there was 10:20 left in the game to get three touchdowns.

Denver was looking at 4th and 11 with 10:45 left in the 3rd quarter. They're down 4 scores but they have almost the whole half. If the Seahawks take a few minutes off the clock there will still be enough time. And the field position does matter a bit: a FG from Seattle would make it 5 scores and put the game completely out of reach.

And OK, they're at the SEA 39 and that makes it worse, but how often do you think the Broncos figured to convert 4th and 11 against that Seahawks defense today? You can't just use league averages there. How often is there a turnover inside the redzone, or how often does SEA go 3 and out running the ball to eat clock and gives Denver a new set of downs at like the DEN 40 or wherever?

I'm not saying punting was correct or anything, I'm saying at least there are arguments for doing it. Pagano just had a straight choice between some chance to win and no chance to win and chose no chance.

The entire game was terrible. On the Seattle 30 yardline early in the game down like 15-0 with 2nd and 1 these idiots called an inside handoff.

This is the easiest "throw the god damn ball 15+ yards downfield" ever. You're already in FG range. You are losing big so you need to like try to ****ing score TDs. It is 2nd down. Moving the chainz 4 feet and getting a fresh set of downs is barely any benefit at all. And you have the GOAT QB.

I don't care if they are playing prevent D there, you don't run the ball.

They ended up getting stuffed then having a penalty on the next play and ended up punting out of FG range I think. Morons. How do these A******* still think the goal on 2nd and 1 in FG range is to get a fresh set of downs on a low-risk/low-reward play? WHY!:!:!:!:!??!?!?!?

ChrisV,

Pagano's may have been worse. I don't really care that much tbh. Both were awful. This one was in the SB and they were down more points and it was also in Seattle territory.

I mean what the **** are they waiting for? Yeah they probably aren't gonna convert but jfc you need to score points to win the ****ing game. Otherwise why even get off the plane?

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Yeah, I think it's the parlay of the 3rd down call and the punt that makes it so bad. Admittedly after they got stuffed on the draw play it became a "well, this sucks" situation where neither choice has much upside (I really feel like they were <20% to convert), so the punt by itself is meh.

But hey, at least they didn't punt it into the endzone!

What happened to the "Peyton waves off the punter" narrative?

It's probably not a narrative because it didn't happen last night.

pagano punt was way worse.

Beyond the in-game decision-making, it was incredible how ill-prepared the Broncos looked last night. I haven't seen a Super Bowl team with two weeks to prepare just get owned like that in all facets of the game, except in cases where one team was obv just much better than the other (I don't think the Seahawks were THAT much better than Denver, if at all in the regular season). Fox really didn't put his team in a position to succeed and deserves quite a bit of blame for this, but I imagine it'll be written off with "the players didn't execute" or whatever and he'll keep getting paid millions to coach for the rest of his life.

That was by far the WOAT Super Bowl I've seen. I'm kind of pissed off that the game sucked so hard. I was really looking forward to this one.

It looked like none of the Broncos wanted to be there.

What are we going to do now?