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12-29-2015 , 06:00 PM

#2226

Buccofan86

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"How do you know Pete Rose has a gambling problem? You weren't even alive in the early 80s. Have you seen him make any bets personally?

But there was no tmz back then so yeah, addiction is just a myth, the people following him around with cameras are to blame, and I'm just a religious nut bag who doesn't want anyone to drink or gamble.

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12-29-2015 , 06:02 PM

#2227

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I don't know if he has an alcohol problem, nor do I care. He has a problem completing passes on a Sunday afternoon and a seeming problem abiding by agreements about off field behaviour the rest of the week.

I'd be surprised if the Browns persevere with him for another season and I'm struggling to see why that would be a mistake right now.

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12-29-2015 , 06:11 PM

#2228

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Originally Posted by AUGUY55

Four Loko is ****ing disgusting

This and to be quite honest if you're drinking a Four Loko you're stuck in a high school, college mindset. Kid needs to grow the **** up.

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12-29-2015 , 06:18 PM

#2229

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White rapper with a four loco AKA refined gentleman in Cleveland.

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12-29-2015 , 08:35 PM

#2230

digables

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Omg buccofan GIFAFI

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12-29-2015 , 08:52 PM

#2231

ludacris

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Bucco, is this the hill you want to die on?

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12-29-2015 , 08:53 PM

#2232

AUGUY55

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Chip Kelly will revive JFF's career

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12-29-2015 , 09:37 PM

#2233

kioshk

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Johnny just likes to sing, that's no crime.

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12-29-2015 , 09:47 PM

#2234

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Originally Posted by Buccofan86

Can anyone give another example of any athlete going to rehab for "PR reasons?"

I can give you another Browns player who went to rehab for PR reasons.

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12-29-2015 , 11:14 PM

#2235

digables

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This is posting 101. Folks like thay3r and ludacris (obviously smart poasters) can hold disagreeable positions and not lose their minds to counterposts. Bucco jus goes full ****** at 100mph

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12-29-2015 , 11:22 PM

#2236

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Originally Posted by Buccofan86

It's not only the actions, but the fact that he keeps doing these sorts of things despite very negative consequences, such as losing his starting job.

Also he has repeatedly lied about where he was, who he was with, and if he was even drinking at all, and told others to lie for him.

Those are things addicts who have been in rehab do. They lie, cover up their activities, and keep doing the exact same things even after huge negative consequences.

His lies are also things people do that have unreasonably strict
Parents/bosses and don't want their parents/bosses to know they are drinking. So every high school kid who had lied about drinking or lied about where they were or who they were with is an alcoholic in your eyes? Do you have a life? Have you ever been outside your house? You seem like you have lived a very naive and sheltered life.

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12-31-2015 , 11:36 AM

#2237

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manziel ruled out of finale due to concussion

have we seen the last game of his forever?

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12-31-2015 , 01:03 PM

#2238

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Originally Posted by DefNotRsigley

manziel ruled out of finale due to concussion

have we seen the last game of his forever?

Probably ruled out for PR reasons to cover up for him showing up to the facility drunk

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12-31-2015 , 01:35 PM

#2239

SuperUberBob

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Originally Posted by DefNotRsigley

manziel ruled out of finale due to concussion

have we seen the last game of his forever?

Nah first-round picks always get at least one extra unwarranted shot to make it in the NFL. Somebody will claim him as their pet reclamation project.

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12-31-2015 , 04:40 PM

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He should be given another chance in an offensive that isn't trying to be so traditional which is probably why McClown was the original starter.

Or he was ruled out with a concussion for PR reasons cause the Browns hate him and want to punish him for the latest video.

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12-31-2015 , 04:41 PM

#2241

AUGUY55

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Yeh he'll play again

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12-31-2015 , 04:43 PM

#2242

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how come i broke the news and no one credits me

all online reports of this were 2 hours after my post which i heard from my sources deep within the browns organization

should i sue

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12-31-2015 , 04:46 PM

#2243

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I don't think having sources within the Browns organization is a brag. Sounds kinda bad actually. Lol browns.

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01-03-2016 , 12:52 AM

#2244

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...egas/78217502/

Hahahaha Johnny Football is partying in Vegas *right now* the night before the season finale against Pittsburgh.

He'll be insta-cut.

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01-03-2016 , 12:55 AM

#2245

AUGUY55

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He can't wait a ****ing week? Good lord man

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01-03-2016 , 03:11 AM

#2246

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atta boy

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01-03-2016 , 03:20 AM

#2247

Buccofan86

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Originally Posted by GusJohnsonGOAT

lol, so he's not allowed to do anything? The Browns look far worse in any of these situations.

Let him do what he wants in private; he's not breaking any laws. If the Browns want to be morons and bench him again, it's just another lol Browns since they seriously haven't gotten one thing right in the past 10 years.

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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

A total non-story. The guy had a beer. He didn't bang any whores or go to a strip club to do coke that night.

If anything, probably best not to be taped doing these things even if they are innocent.

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Originally Posted by GusJohnsonGOAT

And? Am I or anyone else supposed to tell him how to live his life?

I also don't think he has had a serious problem with alcohol and is a kid having fun. He has yet to be arrested for any alcohol related incident. I'd be much more concerned about his temper, which may or may not be because of alcohol, but no reason to automatically assume that is the reason.

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Originally Posted by El Rata

wow, the man is out of control

how dare he be in a private residence rapping along with some hippity hopper while a jersey of his friend hangs on the wall?

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Originally Posted by GusJohnsonGOAT

It's also possible he was partying like many people his age, but since he had a more high profile job any kind of irresponsibility (especially in the NFL) is taken very seriously, and probably more than it should be scrutinized. Very possible his problem wasn't that serious or that he did it for PR reasons.

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Originally Posted by -Insert Witty SN-

PR reasons?

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Originally Posted by GusJohnsonGOAT

He chose to go to rehab. Again, PR reasons. It's not hard to understand.

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Originally Posted by El Rata

so you're saying manziel had enough self-awareness to realize he had a yuuuuuuuuge problem and check himself into rehab, but he can't be trusted to even be around a beer at a private house party?

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Originally Posted by bazooka87

Buccofan are you aware of celebrities? When they get caught drunk on a night out, or perhaps having some coke, many are obligated to apologise and spend time in rehab, regardless of whether they're alcoholics/drug addicts or not. As said above it's all about PR, think of the children etc.

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Originally Posted by digables

Alright dr drew

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Originally Posted by digables

Lotta armchair psych going on itt. Pretty silly to speculate on a serious thing like alcohol addiction based on TMZ coverage we see

This could just as easily be a maturity/lack of awareness issue or just being an idiot as it could be serious addiction

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Originally Posted by digables

He could have a drinking problem but I don't think the rehab is an indication of that at all. That was an obvious PR move. He could've had zero drinking problem whatsoever and still have to go to rehab.

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Originally Posted by digables

His problems seem much more related to having to be in front of the camera. I'm not saying he doesn't have a drinking problem but I wouldnt speculate on that more than any other athlete i only know through social media and paparazzi

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Originally Posted by digables

It's pretty likely that he drinks less than 95% of the people on this forum. He just works in a place where it's not tolerated at all once it becomes public spectacle. His decision to drink anyway could be things other than alcoholism.

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Originally Posted by mutigers

he prob does, or did, have a problem

that doesn't mean he should never be allowed to drink again as that has been proven to work like **** for most people time and time again. lots of people party hard and exhibit all the signs of an alcoholic when they are young but they grow up and drink responsibly. i still have yet to see evidence that he has been out of control since going to rehab unless i missed something. clutching pearls because he has a drink in his hand is lame

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Originally Posted by Wooders0n

He had a beer in his hand dude. How does that prove he's OUT OF CONTROL? Maybe he just doesn't give a **** what you or anyone else thinks.

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Originally Posted by digables

I'm definitely not saying that he doesn't have an alcohol problem. I just dont get why some of tou are so sure. I just think it's also likely that he has normal drinking habits at his age and just is a total ****** about his visibility and job responsibilities.

Addict is a pretty serious word. Dude is an in shape NFL QB and the worst social outcome of his drinking has been misdemeanors in a college bar. Sorry I'm not happily ready to throw the alcohol addict tag on him

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01-03-2016 , 03:21 AM

#2248

Buccofan86

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Originally Posted by digables

Jesus christ

Some ping the bad posting thread

Ping it, indeed.

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01-03-2016 , 03:23 AM

#2249

Buccofan86

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Is this the new "Antonio Brown isn't a top 5 WR?"

Originally Posted by digables View Post
He could have a drinking problem but I don't think the rehab is an indication of that at all. That was an obvious PR move. He could've had zero drinking problem whatsoever and still have to go to rehab.

Originally Posted by digables View Post
He could have a drinking problem but I don't think the rehab is an indication of that at all. That was an obvious PR move. He could've had zero drinking problem whatsoever and still have to go to rehab.

Originally Posted by digables View Post
He could have a drinking problem but I don't think the rehab is an indication of that at all. That was an obvious PR move. He could've had zero drinking problem whatsoever and still have to go to rehab.

Originally Posted by digables View Post
He could have a drinking problem but I don't think the rehab is an indication of that at all. That was an obvious PR move. He could've had zero drinking problem whatsoever and still have to go to rehab.

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01-03-2016 , 03:24 AM

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everyone got camera phones now and no one can even provide a grainy picture of him in vegas tonight, but here's Buccofan doing some kind of victory lap

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