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11-24-2013 , 11:00 AM

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Is there any solid evidence other than just the woman's word? I haven't been following the story.

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11-24-2013 , 11:28 AM

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Not to AIDS up this thread any further (although it's probably beyond salvation in any case) but I assume in the US there are laws against serving drinks to intoxicated people. Yet somehow that doesn't attract this level of ZOMG DOES THAT MEAN I CANT SERVE SOMEONE A GLASS OF WINE IF THEYVE ALREADY HAD ONE aidsing.

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11-24-2013 , 11:34 AM

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Yeah there is. And if a drunk guy goes out and kills someone in a dui, the bar can be held liable if they over served him.

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11-24-2013 , 11:36 AM

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there would be similar levels of backlash if a pack of clowns came in here and accused bartenders of attempted murder when it happens

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11-24-2013 , 11:56 AM

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Is there any solid evidence other than just the woman's word? I haven't been following the story.

DNA confirms Jameis ****ed the chick.

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11-24-2013 , 11:59 AM

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i think we should discuss the subtleties of rape and alcohol some more as may become relevant as more information in this highly intriguing case is being released

girl has a PAC such that she is drunk or wasted, she has sex.

are these two facts sufficient for the encounter to:

1. be rape according to written law in some states
2. be found rape in a court in some states
3. be rape morally

last 2 are obviously false. first seems like it might be true based on what cdl has posted. lol written law in the US. Uk has a more sensible paragraph as expected.

3 doesn't matter, and I have a feeling 1=2. The charge will always follow you, no matter how frivolous or false it may be.

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I'm pretty sure the only sane solution here is mandatory chastity belts that can only be unlocked via breathalyzers.

Well this gives a new meaning to blowjobs...

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11-24-2013 , 11:59 AM

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DNA confirms Jameis ****ed the chick.

So the only question is do they believe the girl? It could be similar to the Duke lacrosse case where she's making it up for a huge payday.

That's the downside to being a famous athlete, any girl you have sex with could potentially cry rape.

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11-24-2013 , 12:04 PM

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3 doesn't matter, and I have a feeling 1=2. The charge will always follow you, no matter how frivolous or false it may be.

You mean other than the whole "being in jail" part of things, yeah, being accused of rape is every bit as bad as being convicted of rape.

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Have you thought this through? How many famous athletes are there, and how many chicks have they banged? How many of them get falsely accused of rape?

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11-24-2013 , 12:05 PM

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Have you thought this through? How many famous athletes are there, and how many chicks have they banged? How many of them get falsely accused of rape?

True. It's still a risk though, I guess it doesn't happen a whole lot, but the Duke lacrosse case was a good example of it.

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11-24-2013 , 12:07 PM

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True. It's still a risk though, I guess it doesn't happen a whole lot, but the Duke lacrosse case was a good example of it.

Yeah, it was, and it's now the anecdote upon which skeptics everywhere can hang their hat when they don't want to believe the accusations of a rape victim. You know what are way bigger and way more common problems than false accusations of rape? Rape, and unreported rape.

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11-24-2013 , 12:09 PM

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So much this.

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11-24-2013 , 12:11 PM

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What can I clarify for you VV?

man I dont even want to get involved in this but I don't think you're as bad a guy as some people are making you out to be and think most of the problem is confusion thats lost in translation thats all.

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11-24-2013 , 12:12 PM

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Yea I agree it's a problem, but you can't just ignore false rape reports just because they occur less often. I'm interested to see what other information comes out about her past and maybe some witnesses who saw the interactions between the 2 of them that night or in the past. She has everything to gain from this and he has everything to lose, so it would be unfair to just convict him on her word alone.

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11-24-2013 , 12:16 PM

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She has everything to gain from this

This is a clown post, bro.

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11-24-2013 , 12:21 PM

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What the **** are you talking about? If someone was raped do you really think they have anything to gain at this point? No conviction is going to take those events away and heal obvious mental and physical anguish it has created for the victim now and down the road in their life. There's a reason a lot of rape victims never speak up bro.

It's almost as if you're saying someone who has everything to lose would never commit such a crime and someone who you claim has nothing to lose would make up such a heinous act for their gain, whatever the hell you think that is.

****ING EAGLES FANS!

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11-24-2013 , 12:24 PM

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And if she was raped..............what is the big gain here? She's already a loser in this just for speaking up. Her sex life is now public in a culture where she's considered a slut and he's considered a stud. People in FSU likely hate her for putting the football season at risk, whether she was raped or not.

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11-24-2013 , 12:25 PM

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This is a clown post, bro.

I think we're in agreement that he can't be convicted on just her word, but you're kidding yourself if you don't see that she has something to gain from this. I'm not saying she's lying, just that it factors in differently than a case where a 12 year old girl says a 55 yr old man raped her.

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11-24-2013 , 12:28 PM

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You have to be trolling guy, I pray someone from your family is never raped or accuses anyone of rape so you don't give them the what are you trying to gain from this speech.

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11-24-2013 , 12:28 PM

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Exactly. And if she WASN'T raped she has everything to gain from it monetarily. *I'm not saying she's lying or telling the truth, just pointing out the differences from this case to other cases where a girl's word/DNA evidence could be enough to convict.

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11-24-2013 , 12:29 PM

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You have to be trolling guy, I pray someone from your family is never raped or accuses anyone of rape so you don't give them the what are you trying to gain from this speech.

Complete misinterpretation.

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11-24-2013 , 12:31 PM

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Everything to gain? You mean she's got so much to gain that whether or not Jameis is convicted, the a good portion of city of Tallahassee and the FSU fan base will consider her accusations a personal assault on them and then take it upon themselves to make her life miserable, by digging through her personal life, spreading smears about her, and potentially making violent threats against her?

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11-24-2013 , 12:32 PM

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What does she have to gain monetarily from this? Winston is a poor college student right now. And if he's convicted he's likely looking at a decent jail sentence (probably 5+ years), so there goes his NFL career and his payday - the odds that a team takes a chance on an unproven player coming out of jail following a rape conviction is pretty small (Vick was different since he was a proven NFL star and had only been in jail for a year).

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11-24-2013 , 12:34 PM

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Keep going rakeme, might make it to China before Brady/Manning kick off

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11-24-2013 , 12:42 PM

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That's brings up a pretty good point. I think I'm a good guy and so do my friends. One misunderstanding like this can tarnish all that and cause overly judgmental people like you to start throwing rocks. Rape is a highly emotional subject, but we should be able to discuss the facts of the case ITT without deciding every person providing a view counter to the victim's side must hate women.

This thread will continue to suck and inevitably turn into a Winston bashing thread unless that stops.

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11-24-2013 , 12:48 PM

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I would not attack everyone providing a counter-view, but your point that she was in a sorority know for wanting to have sex with athletes and therefore is more likely to be lying about being raped, is pretty misogynistic.

There are plenty of potential reasons to doubt her story, the fact that she is in a sorority should not be one of them and is the epitome of slut shaming.

Also, your post that its almost worse to be falsely accused of being a rapist than to be raped is similarly misogynistic. The fact that you don't recognize this is sad. You really should step back, stop posting in this thread and reconsider your viewpoints.

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