sounds right, palo was very good in that game too i thought

in turbos you get a random villa n0 peek

in long games, you typically get to choose your n0 peek, or it gets randed from the whole player list

wrong

Ok, I agree!

Yes there were

Turbos are generally going to be random villager.. while larger games will often be true peek.

I'm still catching up, but wtf at the seer hunting ITT

Nath

well said ASP

The goal of the village is to find wolves. I'll clear myself by making reads.

And lol if you think he has no chance of being lynched. We still have a couple hours.

I've called actual girls he out of the presumption that 99% of 2p2 is male. When I'm wrong, they tend to get somewhat upset. Loretta has a girl's name and a girl's avatar. Eh.

Agree it's rare a CFD is good unless really good info comes out towards EOD. Just one out of nowhere is almost always anti-village.

The logic is this: The wolves know exactly who all the other wolves are. When Anarchist fake-peeks Loretta wolf, Loretta is obviously either a wolf or not. If he is a wolf, the wolves need to kill Anarchist because his fake peek is correct, making him more likely to be a seer than a random villager would be. If Loretta is a villager, the wolves know Anarchist isn't a seer and don't have to worry about killing him yet.

Sup Vyk and Vix. I am a villager and I hope you br0's are as well.*

*And fwiw I recognize the tone above sounds "wolfy", but I will talk to Vyk and Vix how I want, when I want, without regard for you other fools.

I was a seer in the most current girl with a dragon tattoo mishmash and the SE'ers in the game seer hunted the crap out of me every time I left a peek

I'd throw in the 2 guys I peeked villager at the top of my village list and like 3 SE'ers would comment on it and hound me for clarification. I think they were all villagers too, and somehow the wolves never noticed it and I was able to get a whopping 6 peeks off before I claimed on d5

the point I'm trying to make is:

stop seer hunting

if you think your statement in regards to an individual players reads list could be interpreted as seer hunting, it probably is

don't do it

I'm not seer-hunting anything; I think his peek is bad strategy because if it's fake and they're both villagers, Anarchist has set us up to have two of our strongest players killed early. Whether his peek was fake or real I think it was a bad one.

To be fair, it's not really seer hunting when someone either fake peeks or outs themselves as a seer. Anarchist put it out there for all to see.

Except I didn't. The only thing that got my name out there was that I said I didn't really care about my "life" and trying to give the wolves some tips.

I've already explained the wolf-help part and the not caring about my life part is actually pretty obvious: I win when the village wins. I don't care if I'm alive or not. For that reason I find it hard to get as engaged as I was last time in this game.

It's not that it's not still fun, it's that when you're the SK, if you die, it's game over. Now if I die, it's just that I won't be able to help the village anymore. Oh well, we'll prob still win (with respect to Bingo and his murky idea that Wolves win more in POG, the data backs me up, WW is a village game).

As for how to help since I might die tonight:
For the love of Islamic Fonzie, please stop putting so much faith on the day one reads you're making now. Note odd behavior, remember the feelings you get, they're important to be sure, but none of you have enough info to call anyone a lock wolf or even close yet.

You're trying to draw a line and you have only one point. Think back to geometry class...it isn't going to work.

As a village we learn more from voting patterns than posting history or (LOL) tone reads. After day 2 of last game I was able to correctly narrow my list of power villagers and wolves down to about 25% of the game pool and hit way more than I missed. Maybe I just ran good but I think the logic, which I went over last game, was sound.

Also, stop looking at entrances. One word: Geoffras. Some people don't take the game that seriously, they don't realize that posting that they just got a wolf PM, a picture of a wolf, or HOOOOOOWLLLLL will be jumped on by a bunch of paranoid people desperate for someone to lynch. They just think it's as funny as posting LOLStealers. Most things mean what they look like they mean. A confused poster is probably really confused (especially if the situation, like a CFD, is confusing), a quiet poster probably has something to hide, and a helpful poster is probably being helpful.

We've got the upper hand, we can remember with 100% accuracy the wolves posting patterns, and without getting into it, I doubt the wolf team is smart enough to create a ton of misleading info there.

Relax and let the game come to you. After 2 days you should have enough info to start drawing some serious lines and once you do, the wolves will collapse in on themselves.

Lastly, for some reason in the last game, people kept referring to seer-cleared players as totally clear. They aren't. There's the godfather and maybe the SK at least (if they've fixed the SK's role to be not ******ed in that area) who will peek one thing but be another. Don't 100% ignore someone just because a dead seer cleared them.

what were the n0 actions?

to expand on that if anarchist dies by a wolf kill and is a villager but not a seer, there is a chance that the wolves were seer hunting and that would give loretta slightly higher odds to be a wolf. if im correct in that thinking..

there are Seer Hunt Cleared Players( players that are fake peeked villager and then the peeker dies by wolf kill and is not a seer) and (i dont know if there is another term) but >rand wolf players from Fake Peek Seers peeking them as wolves.

If I was a wolf and knew Annie/Loretta were both villagers, I'd probably push the wolves to kill Annie tonight knowing it would tilt the village towards lynching Loretta tomorrow.

My post isn't seer-hunting; it's pointing out where a post could cause problems for the village and that we shouldn't necessarily follow it to its logical conclusion.

THIS is seer hunting:

why is this tone wolfy?

9er turbos (the turbo structure youy are probably referring to) randomizes the n0 peek but limiting to villagers only,

whereas in larger games and mishmashes, the seer gets to personally choose who they want to peek, with no limits on the player roles

so the seer can feasibly peek both a villager and a wolf role in this format

Blatantly seer hunting in the thread is almost never a wolf, they have wolf chat.

Until he hard claims or w/e ignore it. Loretta is the one who brought it up.