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Only 3 spaces left (max of 30), hoping to get our first accas up this weekend so if you want in say so quickly!

Ok after a period of reflection we're back in business. first a financial update, and then some interesting news



the news is twofold, one we have amassed sufficient betfair points to be eligible for a 4% discount on commissions. the price of doing business just went down

second, the interesting bit. this is a historic day for the Partners.

today i noticed this tab for the first time



there's a chance that has always been there, but i am 95% it's new



dunno how easy that screenshot will be to read, but basically they are saying that as we are, quote, consistently profitable, we may be subject to a premium charge of some description. i dont know the details as the formula seems to have been written by NASA

anyway the point is that we, the Partners of F&B LLP, have officially garnered the attention of the bookmaking community

pokerstars vs teejay may or may not have been a targeted attack, but there is absolutely no doubt this time

with that in mind its time to launch another salvo of missiles. Group C, your proposals please

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I propose to back English Champions Manchester City to beat Liverpool inside 90 minutes in the Community Shield on Sunday. The current odds are 10/11.

Salah, Firmino got back to training yesterday and Mane is not back yet and Klopp more or less ruled all three out of starting in his press conference. So if you fancy Divock Origi and Rhian Brewster versus Kdb, Sterling, Bernardo, Foads, Aguero, Silva, Sane etc etc then don't vote for this proposal.

Bristol City to get a draw at home to Leeds 23/10
Luke Ayling out injured and Pontius sold leaves us weaker.

OH I GOT PICKS

We have a slack channel for 2p2, would like to share it exclusively with members of the SYNDICATE

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I propose Burnley to beat Southampton in the season opener next Saturday. Current odds 13/8.

As regular readers of the English Football thread know, Burnley are better than Southampton. On top of that, local hero and former Southampton player Jay Rodriguez will be making his long awaited return to the Turf and is bound to score the winner.

We're not seriously suggesting pre season friendlies again, are we?

1 My first proposal is that boids change the formatting of our prospectus, I'm color blind and can't tell the difference... but it is nice to believe our record is spotless

2. up the bournemouth bet with a parlay on bournemouth themselves, can we really see 4 goals being scored but bournemouth still not winning?

3 taking the under on HOU @CLE tomorrow at 8.5 for 1.9.

The reasoning being that it's at Cleveland and has two of the games best pitchers in Gerrit Cole and Danny Salazar.

Cole is a beast arguably the most consistent pitcher in the game today. Danny Salazar is coming off a long term injury but has pitched well in rehab starts and was an ace before the injury. He may have an innings cap, but that's ok because CLE has the 3rd best bullpen.

I feel like there is a strong mismatch here because HOU has a name brand offense and Salazar has been hurt - giving perceptions that Houston could light him up. I don't think that will be the case, and even if it does happen. Cole is unlikely to yield many runs. He typically goes 7-8 innings and in his last 8 starts has given up 1 run 6 times, 0 once and 4 the other time.

Houston is also more name brand than substance this year, their offense is good, but far from elite as it's 8th in the MLB. CLE is 20th.

Cleveland is a pitcher's park and the Indians just pulled off a huge head scratcher by trading Trevor Bauer. It's basically unprecedented for a playoff team to trade away coveted power pitchers for some OF depth. Unless they're re-enacting Major League and trying to tank, it only makes sense if they believe that Salazar is healthy and ready to go - which 6 rehab starts should indicate.

Normally when you see a matchup like this, the o/u line is around 7, at 8.5 I see a pretty decent edge.

Having said that, I wouldn't recomend a yacht level investment here, it's EV but nothing absurd



4. I've also been looking at the nfl preseason lines, it seems to me that some of them are getting pretty low o/us based on defensive reputation even though for most of the game it's going to be practice squad players - haven't researched but I'm thinking someone here in this braintrust may have done some work on this and can offer an opinion

I would like to nix this idea. Laporte is out. It’s gonna be a total circus at the back. It’s also a meaningless match.

I am going to stoke the fires here and propose that the mighty Southampton will beat Burnley in the same game, currently at 15/8.

As we all know, 15/8 returns more than 13/8. It's true, I've done the maths.

If that's not enough, Southampton have a foreign manager with great hair and an unpronounceable name - literally, I dare you to try and pronounce it:



By way of comparison, Burnley's manager, Sean Dyche has no hair and a name that is 400% easier to pronounce.



Thank you for your time, god bless.

Someone please propose the Draw.

I like it, bring it on!

I'd just like to point out for those that don't understand fractional odds, that Joe is incorrect as backing Southampton at 15/8 will return less than backing Burnley at 13/8. It will actually return zero.

TP, you’ve already said that Joe Hart will probably start. This negates any potential Jay Rod advantage.

While Joe Hart potentially starting is a disadvantage, Southampton were one of the few teams that failed to score past him last season so I'm confident it won't be a problem.

I hope you don’t start Peacock Farrell

Latest news is that Pope is set to play the final preseason friendly, so no need to worry about Joe Hart.

Bad news - when the market learns about this Burnley's price will shoot so far in that it won't even be worth the investment.

I guess we’ll never know as THEY STILL HAVEN’T CONTACTED ME AFTER 8 DAYS!!

Sorry for derail but I’m very mad about this. I’ll get a STATS update out soon.

Holy **** that's insane.

Have you tried to out them on twitter? They usually move a bit faster when things go public.

I don’t have a Twitter account but let’s just say I have contacted them more than once. Anyway don’t wanna derail this thread just wanted a quick rage.

Edit - actually my bad they did email me a couple of days ago...

i'll talk to lee jones

All I can say really is

Lee Jones doesn't work there anymore