well, the bundesliga is here, boys.

what better way to kick it off than a matchup of the two most winningest teams in league history. should be an epic fight today

I'm content if Werder concede less than five.

Going to see Sandhausen vs Stuttgart later. Will probably be a home game for VfB.

Seems likely. Sandhausen do a great job. First season in a while w/o a point deduction, too.

Yeah I won't bother with the game tonight either I think, going to see Bochum-Hannover first and will probably just look for a nice pub to sit outside (I hope it's bearable by then)

…where the Green-Whites stand against Bayern statistically? The Bavarians have won almost half of the hundred Bundesliga meetings between the two sides (49 matches) but SVW have inflicted more defeats on Bayern than any other club in the German first division (26).

http://www.werder.de/en/news/news/we...bayernpreview/

Speaking of Werder they sure are taking their sweet time sending me my Golfsburg ticket, I mean the confirmation e-mither I got did say it'd arrive in good time for the match, but it's kind of silly when I've had my effzeh one for over a week and I ordered that one second

i'd be suprised if werder scores

4-0 prediction

Reading some of the internet previews has me convinced this season's bundesliga is gonna be a hot hot 4 team race to the finish because bayern had <50% poss in the super cup and everyone else is primed for massive improvements despite dortmund losing their 3 best players and leverkusen needing to bridge a 30-pt gap so yeah I just want to say I'm totally stoked to the max about it. legggooo

On the other hand, 11 Freunde's season preview booklet asks you on the first page when in February Bayern will win the title

I looked at the odds to win it and it was like buyern -700, bvb +600, and leverkusen was 3rd at like +3000 or something ridiculous.

Aye, when I was listening to some preview danish podcast this little fact also seemed to have played total mindtricks on them and one even predicted Dortmund as champions. I hear Honigstein is doing the same!

For better or worse I managed to not even consider that super cup game at all in my lil (top 3) preview postings from yesterday in the transfer thread. I'm not even sure it was there subconsciously. I did at least remember to throw in there that Ancelotti has missed out on good league chances before, but I dunno, it was mostly just to mention it just in case. Not sure it's all that relevant.

thanks for copying that Bjorn, really enjoy reading your contributions here.

Good point with the culture remaining at Bayern despite Pep leaving. I think people forget that Bayern we're pretty damn good before Pep as well so no reason to expect a significant drop off in league even if Ancelotti has a penchant for the champion's league. Bayern didn't lose any key contributors and added Hummels/Sanches. If Robben/Ribery stay healthy they are unbeatable it seems.

Tuchel's project at Dortmund looks super promising with all their exciting young talent but hard to see them go the full season without struggling at some point. It's far more likely imo that Leverkusen overtakes them than either overtaking Bayern for the title. In my head Schmidt's team is a more experienced, better version of Tottenham, exciting to watch and more capable of truly elite performances.

Selfishly from a neutral perspective, I hope it's a close race but it's probably going to take Leicester levels of run good for either team to compete. But that's what August is for, hope springs eternal!

man i don't even feel like robben and ribery are their best options any more - costa and coman seem better at this point.

Bayern look done to me. It's true that they were good before Guardiola but a lot of those players got old very quickly (Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Ribery, Robben) and others are missing (Kroos wanted to get paid, Javi Martinez hurt too much). That's not coming back.

Lewandowski and Douglas Costa look lost, Müller nowhere near good enough to carry a team and they were basically held together by Guardiola magic and Vidal WIM in the second half of last season. They'll probably still get 2nd, but the great Bayern is long gone.

i lol'd

are they chanting over the national anthem or just really bad at singing?

wondering the same thing. i thought national antheming before games was just an american thing. is that normal or just a season kickoff sort of thing?

Aron Johannsson sighting for werder good to see him healthy again

8th minute still 0-0 surprised bremen has held on this long

that hummels pass a couple minutes ago was nuts

alonso goat and lewa goat

I wonder where Sugar Nut is. Last post was a month ago.

Probably cashy levels of busy

Those were two good hits

Oh and that's a bad miss

anyone knows what position vidal plays, dude is wild