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01-01-2022 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
da fk you carrying on about here?
The rules.
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01-01-2022 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Cinarocket
yeah. also can't remember which goal (the 1st or the 2nd) where the ref clearly ****ed norwich vs arsenal last week yet you didn't hear a word about it here. i guess because it didn't fit the narrative that refs have an agenda against arsenal
Good thing Arsenal win the marginal calls in the games they win 5-0 and 3+ xG, not the ones in close games. That isn't an issue at all!

The Palace non red vs Saka being still the most egregious one of the year.
A number of pen calls on Lacazette as well, but like Silva, he does go down easy.
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01-01-2022 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
fANTASy
FYP.
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01-01-2022 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
The rules.
to suggest that every shirt pull in the box should be a PK is ridiculous. i think you realize this but have backed yourself into a corner and are just digging your heels in now for... reasons.
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01-01-2022 , 10:17 AM
The thread has become populated with several Arsenal-supporting Joe Diegos.
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01-01-2022 , 10:17 AM
Exactly why did City sign Grealish

Get him on
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01-01-2022 , 10:17 AM
I do think both angles should have been shown to the ref though.

There is one angle that shows the intentional fall in a worse light, and one that shows the shirt pull in a worse light.

To only show the second image in the review is basically spoon feeding the ref a narrative of the event, show them all the angles and let them then decide.

I still think the pen is given, but at least you can know its on a fair review and not just VAR shoving it down the refs throat.
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01-01-2022 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
to suggest that every shirt pull in the box should be a PK is ridiculous. i think you realize this but have backed yourself into a corner and are just digging your heels in now for... reasons.
No. This is what the rules are. There is no reason to pull anyone's shirt other than to foul them that I can think of. If penalties are awarded whenever this happens in the box then it stops happening.
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01-01-2022 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
to suggest that every shirt pull in the box should be a PK is ridiculous. i think you realize this but have backed yourself into a corner and are just digging your heels in now for... reasons.
To just grab a shirt isn't a foul. To use a pull/grab to impede a player from playing the ball is. Now, what % falls into each bucket is very open to interpretation. But really disagree with Hoopie here, even if more shirt pulls should be punished.
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01-01-2022 , 10:19 AM
Ramsdale is the ultimate shithouse
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01-01-2022 , 10:20 AM
the ødegaard decision is the questionable call. city getting a penalty when xhaka manage to foul a guy twice in the penalty area isnt
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01-01-2022 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
Every shirt pull in the box should be a foul and penalty. It wouldn't be a basketball game if they all got awarded as people would stop doing it.
This. Same with defending at corners, give everything you'd routinely give on the half way line as a penalty. If you can't defend a corner without fouling, get better
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01-01-2022 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
I do think both angles should have been shown to the ref though.

There is one angle that shows the intentional fall in a worse light, and one that shows the shirt pull in a worse light.

To only show the second image in the review is basically spoon feeding the ref a narrative of the event, show them all the angles and let them then decide.

I still think the pen is given, but at least you can know its on a fair review and not just VAR shoving it down the refs throat.
Do we know that that was the only angle shown to the ref?
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01-01-2022 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
No. This is what the rules are. There is no reason to pull anyone's shirt other than to foul them that I can think of. If penalties are awarded whenever this happens in the box then it stops happening.
we'll agree to disagree. a millisecond tug on the shirt in the box shouldn't be an auto PK imo as you think it should be.

for the record, i'm not an ARS fan. i don't have an EPL team (i do root for CHE b/c of PuliGOAT).
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01-01-2022 , 10:22 AM
****
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01-01-2022 , 10:22 AM
Simple question to those who support shirt pulling : what value does football gain by allowing it?
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01-01-2022 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
This. Same with defending at corners, give everything you'd routinely give on the half way line as a penalty. If you can't defend a corner without fouling, get better
Every goal kick these days has the CB/FB grabbing the attacker, they get they call maybe 1/3 the time
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01-01-2022 , 10:22 AM
Loool Arsenal
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01-01-2022 , 10:23 AM
City run so good
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01-01-2022 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Cinarocket
Simple question to those who support shirt pulling : what value does football gain by allowing it?
It'd a contact sport. You're allowed to have contact. When it impedes someone it's a foul. When it doesn't it's not.
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01-01-2022 , 10:24 AM
Lol arse
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01-01-2022 , 10:24 AM
Hahahaha
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01-01-2022 , 10:24 AM
I wantt a huge fight at the end please
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01-01-2022 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Cinarocket
Simple question to those who support shirt pulling : what value does football gain by allowing it?
Less whining over the last 30 minutes ITT?
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01-01-2022 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
I do think both angles should have been shown to the ref though.

There is one angle that shows the intentional fall in a worse light, and one that shows the shirt pull in a worse light.

To only show the second image in the review is basically spoon feeding the ref a narrative of the event, show them all the angles and let them then decide.

I still think the pen is given, but at least you can know its on a fair review and not just VAR shoving it down the refs throat.
this is an important point. the fact that the evolution of VAR hasn't caught up to this fact is an indictment of the Premier League.
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