This won't be news to anyone, but Karren Brady has an opinion on David Moyes.

Ya if market has che +7 then odds will be needed.

Interesting stuff, Hoop. The halftime stats are staggering. Never heard that brought up before.

And Moyes’ worst attribute has been being an all around **** manager and saying idiotic things like how United should aspire to play like City.

And we are going to appoint him.

Watching Arsenal has felt like a chore most games this season.

Im not sure how i will handle Iwobi instead of sanchez and wilshere or ramsey instead of özil...ugh

lol

I don't think he's that bad really.

He inherited one of the most aging and worst sides United have had as far as I can remember.

Also not to mention following one of the most iconic managers. Cant blame the guy too much. Then he picked an utterly terrible Sunderland job....the team is below championship levels dare i say...

West Ham looks like the best of the bunch even in their current state... Time to get back moysey

When was the last time he did a good job for someone? He was ****ed at Old Trafford from day one but he didn't help himself. It'll be the same at our place.

Well, when you put it like that...

He's been on a hiding to nothing in his last couple of jobs (in this country, don't know anything about the Spanish job he took). Seems like this one could be the same but that means almost any manager would be in the same boat.

If Dyche goes to Everton, I wouldn't have been too unhappy to see Moyes take over at Burnley, but I suppose we have different levels of expectation.

hey if mourinho can still get top jobs based on decades old CL success then i reckon moysey's 02-13 everton run should still count for something

btw moysey's record >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dyche

We really need for either the board to work out that they are not the best people to go anywhere near the footballing side of things and get some professionals in to handle not only the playing side but the recruitment side too. Since that isn't going to happen (as they appear to think that thye are the best people to choose the next manager), we need someone big and ugly enough to front up to a **** like Sullivan. Since Moyes is probably keen to return to work and this is as good a job as he is going to get, he simply isn't in a position to dictate to Sullivan and we are going to continue with our usual hit and miss (but mainly miss) approach to recruitment. The only candidate I can think of is Benitez, but he'd cost a king's ransom (assuming he would be prepared to come), so is likely to be ruled out.

You are right about levels of expectation. We have been moved to a disaster of a new stadium on the basis that this is going to catapult us further up the table. People are going to want more than some battling 1-0 wins, although to be fair I think we'd struggle to achieve those right now.

I can't wait to see us bring in Fellaini and Pienaar in January.

Seems Moyes' contract is only until the end of the season.

Apparently Ancelotti, Koeman, Dyche and Paulo Sousa all turned West Ham down before they went for Moyes.

Damn. Moyes is basically a 4am bootycall now

That wouldn't surprise me. No manager worth their salt would be prepared to deal with their pish.

Seems a perfect opportunity to get a young manager in who has done an exemplary job in a lower division like the Championship or League 1 instead of the same tired old roundabout managers. What have you got to lose Vs going for Moyes? The floor is equal, relegation. The ceiling surely higher.

Last thing first, the ceiling is definitely higher.

However, hiring someone from abroad or a lower division with some fresh ideas would involve some vision and also some acceptance that you, as the owner and Director of Football, are as much of the reason for putting us where we are and therefore be prepared to step aside and get someone qualified in. This isn't going to happen.

The new man would probably expect to either (a) work with a proper director of football or (b) deal with the transfer side themselves. Since we are offering (c) you can chip in a few words on transfers but the final say will go to David Sullivan, his son and some shonky agent, the new man (despite his talents) will be hamstrung and the circus will continue until the club's structure changes.

Mc1 will be devastated.

This. Days like against Everton is unfortunately a rarer and rarer occurrence it seems like.

That ao post about Welbeck/Iwobi being basically the same as Ozil/Alexis tied my brain in a knot at the time but it certainly has been on my mind.

Iwobi is fine, but him being held up as the crown jewel of our youth system just kind of depresses me.

Unfortunately it seems like Iwobi will be the next talent we will hang onto for too long.

I like to lol at Chelski for letting Lukaku/Bruyne leave but we are absolutely guilty of the opposite. Just clinging onto players amd expecting a "breakout season"

Like 5-8 players come to mind

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Also i know im a broken record with this...and regardless how Coq did defensively it was an objectively bad decisin to give him a start at CB yday. 1st time he played cb....i dont know how we had the idea alone to loan out mustafi...literrally cant

We would have most likely lost with Laca/Debuchy starting or going with +1 midfielder and 4 at the back.

Sanchez can play anywhere but he shines when he gets back for the ball.and can play off a striker and receives the ball back aroud the penalty area and not try to get played in with a cross

Laca not starting because Wenger doesn't trust Sanchez going backwards seems quite plausible. I think you should have sold Sanchez in the summer.
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Matt Lawton reporting that Stuart Pearce will be Moyes' assistant.

man city goalkeeper situation has been on my mind

so pep gets appointed and decides that joe hart is ok but they can find better. they shove hart off on loan and sign bravo for £20m plus probably a 5 year contract on £100k/wk or something like that

bravo has a bad year so they go and spend a further £40m on ederson and give him a 5 year contract at £100k/wk. oh and joe hart is still kicking around the place so they shove him off on loan again

all told that is £60m, plus signing bonuses, plus £100k/wk times two, plus they might be paying some of joe hart's wages while he's out on loan as well. and it doesn't prevent them from spending an additional £200m in the same summer as they bought ederson

i dont think even man utd or chelsea have the financial muscle to be able to just bin bravo off like that after one meh year. pool arse and spuds would've probably just stuck with hart and spent the £ elsewhere

not really sure how anyone is supposed to compete with this

Passion

Right, and it's part of the reason as to why football is actually pretty dull in the grand scheme of things. The lack of competitive balance is insane. It's also why Leicester winning was the biggest sporting upset of all time.

I would welcome wholesale changes like they have in the US. Obviously a draft is difficult to introduce, as is a salary cap due to the amount of leagues. I don't really know the answer, but the same teams winning everything pretty much every year is boring.

Yeah it's weird that PL teams don't seem at all willing to roll the dice with someone from a lower level or promoting their youth team coaches etc. Bundesliga Teams have being doing years with mixed success granted, but unprovenness is a good thing when the alternative has proven to be bad. Any good reason why PL clubs are so conservative in this regard? I know no one wants to lose access to PL cash but relatively speaking, with parachute payments and whatnot, I'm not sure if relegated clubs even lose a bigger share of their revenue in England than other countries. If anything I would've expected less because in most of Europe, there seems to be much more of a focus on the top division.